Can meditating be dangerous?

Discussion of meditation in the Mahayana and Vajrayana traditions.
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Postby Qing Tian » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:21 am

“Not till your thoughts cease all their branching here and there, not till you abandon all thoughts of seeking for something, not till your mind is motionless as wood or stone, will you be on the right road to the Gate.”

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Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:46 am

Through Dzogchen we can really understand what God is and we don’t have to worry if there is a God or not. God always exists as our real nature, the base, for everybody. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby Ayu » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:33 am

If somebody mixes psychedelic or other drugs with meditation it may be dangerous for the mental health. That's why the fifth sila recommends "No drugs".
"No meditation" would be worse.

And: whatever happens, it comes from inside anyhow. But that is difficult to understand. It is easier to think, bad energies are coming from outside, taking possession of me.
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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby Jesse » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:24 pm

“Freedom is secured not by the fulfilling of one's desires, but by the removal of desire” – Epictetus

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby philji » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:47 pm

Yes I think it can.. I have met so many people who after meditating for just a short while now consider themselves to be an expert. They label themselves as a meditator and sagger around with a peaceful demeanour hiding the negative emotions deep inside..." Me I never get angry......I have lived in ashrams in India.........my guru is the highest emanation on the planet" these ar just some of the things they can be heard to say.......if encountered please apply a liberal dose of skepticism and continue your way..... :rules:

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby wisdom » Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:26 pm

More dangerous than meditating is never meditating.

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby smcj » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:36 pm

Don't take me too seriously.

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby han » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:54 pm

The highest teaching is selfless love . Who can meet this standard?

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby han » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:57 pm

The highest teaching is selfless love . Who can meet this standard?

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby tingdzin » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:18 am

The question of entity possession or attachment is a tricky and involved one. Generally, though, one might say that while very advanced meditators are able to contact beings not perceptible to ordinary people, if one is not advanced, one might have strong feelings about seeing ghosts, or communicating with spirit beings, but the situation cannot be explained as simply as that. To begin with, many people (not only the insane) have experiences of hearing voices, but unless one acts on their promptings, there is usually no trouble. It is a serious mistake to regard such voices as being some sort of entity that is wiser or more trustworthy than one's own conscience; in fact, they are just aspects of one's own brain that may emerge under stress (or possibly from practicing an intensely concentrated meditation, such as some types of chigung).

On the other hand, meditation can reveal one's own mind to oneself to a degree that some people would find unbearable, and this could cause irrational or extreme behavior, as the person attempts to find new guideposts to replace those he or she has trusted all his or her life.

These are just general suggestions. It is impossible to make a good assessment without knowing the whole situation.

Aside to Tidathep:

f you can find a real teacher, meditation can be a wonderful way to deepen your understanding of dhamma. It takes discipline, but if you have instruction, it should not be dangerous.

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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby han » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:36 am

Thanks

Voice is externalised in a different tone :namaste:
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Re: Can meditating be dangerous?

Postby theanarchist » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:10 am

Yep, can be dangerous as it is a potent tool.

Firstly you could do it wrong. You could meditate too much, just like you don't learn to run a marathon in a few days you won't be able to meditate for long periods right away. A lot of westerners are quite ambitious in an unhealthy way.

And secondly people with certain mental/emotional problems should beware, as meditation/ the concentration and deprivation of stimulation increases mental processes. So a person who is already mentally unstable might become more unstable instead of less when extensively meditating.


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