TheSpirit wrote:I am pretty sure you can kill someone with a shaolin stick. The difference was the time in which things were invented.
Not really, a stick is findable anywhere, and can
be used for non-lethal purposes, not to mention non-weapon purposes.. a gun is to kill something, that's it's purpose. Trading in weapons would almost defintely be wrong livelihood..I can't imagine that even being a debate.
I imagine the answer to this is really up in the air, especially if you live rurally etc., it is "normal" on some level to own a gun.
Historically as far as I know generally the ordained Sangha was definitely prohibited from owning weapons, i'm not clear on how it'd work with householders.
Really if you plan on owning a gun you should ask whether you really need it, the vast majority if people I know with guns (and I know alot, from years of doing Martial arts, you meet some characters lol) don't need them at all. I know alot of upper middle class people who have these delusions that someone will soon break down their door or something so they "need to be prepared". Generally, violence has a lot of warning signs, if one is concerned with self-defense, there are a bunch of things to look at (habits, victim profile, personal experience with violence, capabilities and attitudes etc.) long before owning a weapon needs any consideration, simply reading a book on those subjects in many cases is probably a better self defense method than following one's paranoid leanings to acquire weaponry.
I've read lots of people making reasoned claims about why the need firearms for "self defense", but in actually I have met very few who I think have any legitimate need, IMO alot of it is due to a media-induced crime fantasy (violent crime has dropped for years)...I don't rule out that they can be used for self-defense at all, only that it is necessary for most people.
From my perspective, the cons of owning a gun really seem to outweigh the pros, particularly as a Buddhist.
Just my own take of course.
"Just as a lotus does not grow out of a well-levelled soil but from the mire, in the same way the awakening mind
is not born in the hearts of disciples in whom the moisture of attachment has dried up. It grows instead in the hearts of ordinary sentient beings who possess in full the fetters of bondage." -Se Chilbu Choki Gyaltsen