Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Grigoris » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:01 pm

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:09 pm

the first lung seemed the lineage-prayer or an intro or something similar
the 2nd was the practice-text - afaik
ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Grigoris » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:11 pm

Yesterday Garchen Rinpoche said that he added the white torma offering to the practice too. I wonder if they gave the lung for that too?
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Pero » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:20 pm

Could someone send me the sadhana from Scribd please?
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Shemmy » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:53 pm

Here's the link to the text Pero:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/149130531/Puj ... tna-Lingpa

Scribd takes a bit of registering and mucking around

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby coolbreeze » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:33 pm

Just received an email from the Garchen Institute:

"In response to your requests, we will stream the afternoon session of the Vajrakilaya Drubchen, which will be in English, if our signal holds. We experienced signal issues this morning and are uncertain what the conditions will be this afternoon.

The session will run from 2-5 Mountain Standard Time, and the link for the streaming is:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/vajrakila ... hings-2013

Thank you for all the beautiful messages you have been sending. We rejoice that so many of you can join in from afar!"

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Pero » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:40 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:46 pm

ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Pero » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:52 pm

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:14 pm

ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby conebeckham » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:50 pm

I just want to say that the translation that is up on Scribd is the work of Sangye Khandro and Lama Chonam, I believe, and it sure would be nice if the translators got some financial remuneration--instead of Scribd--for their work. I've uploaded a few things there, for free distribution, but I have a day job and my translations are worthless anyway...whereas these folks who live the Dharma full time sure could use Dana.


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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Shemmy » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:25 am

Agreed, the best thing is to pay for the texts…in my own situation…in Thailand, they will not avail me, being a foreigner, nor my wife because she isn't gainfully employed of a credit card nor will my bank allow me to transfer funds to an alternative such as paypal. It is 60 dollars to do one wire transfer. I sincerely regret not paying for a text, but I also don't think the banks here should be paid for not allowing us to spend money outside the country so as to help them prop up the currency, or whatever the reason. We have no libraries here either, so I cannot, say for example, borrow a book, something we all do back home which also does not put money in penniless translators' pockets. I realize I am making excuses and I hope I will be in a position to pay those who should be paid in the near future.

That said, I wonder if the supplemental texts were available even at cost. And also I am not sure simply making the text unavailable on the Drikung-Kagyu site solves the problem of people making free copies available on Scribd. The texts not being available made participating from the streamcast a bit of a rough ride, or more than it should be, I'd rather be directing my energies to appreciating the wonderful opportunity we were given and the whole atmosphere than be worrying about trying work out whether what was being done was in the supplements or the main text. I had no idea what we were doing for most of the sadhana during the Tibetan reading, tho perhaps I get what I pay for, maybe even more than what I pay for actually.

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:19 am

anybody here who can tell me the name of the lama/monk who gave the lung?
ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby heart » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:38 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:53 am

ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby Grigoris » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:38 am

I have sent an email off to garchen.net asking which lung were given yesterday. Once I get the reply I will post it here for everybody.
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Garchen giving Ratna Lingpa's Vajrakilaya

Postby lelopa » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:57 am

ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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