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Levels of accomplishment?

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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby kc2dpt » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:07 pm

If the eliminated fetters were marked in each column, one might make the mistake of thinking the same fetter has to be eliminated over and over again, up to 4 times. :shrug: So there's room for confusion no matter how you do it. The best thing to do is what you did: ask. :)
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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:50 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby kc2dpt » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:52 am

One cannot guess ahead of time all the ways someone will be confused.
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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:18 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby rowyourboat » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:01 pm

Isnt there another way of talking of attainment as well: dhamma follower, faith follower etc?
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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby Individual » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:30 pm

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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby andyebarnes67 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:20 pm

I have always felt there to be a close correlation between the four levels - stream winner, once returner, non-return and Arahant to the Jhanas.
Does anyone more knowledgeable have any views/references for or against this view?
(Moderators, you might think this worth re posting as a new thread somewhere. If so, please do and just let me know here. Thanks.)
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Re: Levels of accomplishment?

Postby CedarTree » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:33 am

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