KonchokZoepa wrote:yes me too, vajrayana sadhanas arent a problem to concentrate on. but to comment on your meditation, i dont believe its an achievement of shamatha, unless you can stay there for four hours without any distraction.
Well, i'll listen to my own teachers advice on the matter, but thanks.
i think very very very minute few people of all western practitioner actually have achieved shamatha. i seem to be a bit obsessed about achieving it. without it you cant penetrate to the root of samsara properly, that is practice vipashyana properly as a means to an end.
The quality of other people's practice really isn't yours to know.
also i dont think shamatha is a forceful technique at all, nothing works if done forcefully. from that perspective i see either every practice as forceful or forced or the opposite. could you open up a bit what you mean by the term '' forceful technique '' ?
Sure, some sources categorize anything where you are forcing concentration on an object as "forceful", and shamatha where you focus on nothing and simply let the elaboration clear as "natural", to put it roughly. It's not a value judgement of course, but it seems that different approaches work for different folks. I've read similar descriptions as this from everyone from HHDL to Tenzin Wangyal.
Lots, and lots of Mahamudra and Dzogchen texts talk about this sort of thing too...as well as letting go of hope and fear about practice, which frankly you seem pretty caught up in man!
It's not my term either BTW.
"Just as a lotus does not grow out of a well-levelled soil but from the mire, in the same way the awakening mind
is not born in the hearts of disciples in whom the moisture of attachment has dried up. It grows instead in the hearts of ordinary sentient beings who possess in full the fetters of bondage." -Se Chilbu Choki Gyaltsen