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Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

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Re: Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

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Postby Hanzze » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:57 am

You can think about how it could be for eons, when ever you don't start to put the eightfold path as a whole into action, homelessness will just remain a thought, followed by the next, maintained from the last... That's maybe the idea of those who like to last till the end and such approach is good to maintain ground for it.
As long as we believe that our actions have no results, we will not be touched by victims and harm. It's called well conditioned ignorance of the ignorance.
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

Postby Hanzze » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:52 am

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:16 pm

I agree Bhante. And where does scientific evidence refute rebirth? I have not seen any such evidence. There may be no scientific evidence for rebirth, but neither is there for its negation.

(And for skeptics: yes I know the burden of proof is on the claim of rebirth, but that still does not negate the possibility.)
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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

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"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:34 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

Postby Cittasanto » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:40 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Uncertain Minds: How the West Misunderstands Buddhism

Postby Viscid » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:27 pm

When people cite these examples of potential evidence to demonstrate that consciousness can function independent of the brain, it conveys a belief that there is something that isn't part of the material world pulling the strings of the marionette-- Which confuses me, because Buddhists traditionally try to discourage the belief in a soul, and yet that is exactly what you're proposing.
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