most of these comments seem beside the point.
i think the problem is that almost all of the respondents here are trying to categorize and abstract out an essence of an idea instead of confronting some bits of reality i am trying to focus on.
my own point is this page is the second result on google search results for the phrase 'buddhism and entheogens'. i am a korean seon buddhist living in america. i click on this link. i see someone proclaiming a dogmatic rule for all of buddhism (if you are a follower of buddha, etc). i know that i am a follower of buddha, within a different tradition, and find it odd that someone is claiming all these rules of buddha without even mentioning any intent behind the rules and in a spirit that breaks with other buddhist traditions of mindfulness, compassion, dialogue etc.
perhaps others, totally ignorant of the bulk of buddhas teaching, also found this site, and as current drug users who find their desires and life being filled by drugs rather than dharma, will chose what they know in the first 5 seconds without finding a hook that will engage them because of a focus on authoritarian language rather than intent.
this forum does not exist in an isolated, abstract community of fellow-travelers on an island, but on the internet where it can be seen by people coming from many many backgrounds. how does it help those people to engage in rule-reciting rather than the intention behind those rules? perhaps some people, perhaps young, who visit this site are drug users and want to remain drug users, but are also interested in buddhism. it is more important to recite rules about how drug use is bad, then to get them more interested in the dharma than in drugs?
of course drug use won't be helpful for people once they've taken refuge, of course buddhism is a western concept, of course there was no such thing as hinduism, of course there are multiple interpretations of the suttas, of course of course of course skillful means can be employed to negative ends, but of course so can rules. is that impossible or ludicrous to accept?
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