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Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

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Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

Postby steve19800 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:22 pm

Hello guys,

I have few questions regarding above Paritta. It seems like there are several versions of those Paritta.

The first version Jaya Manggala:

Bahum sahassa' mabhinimmita savudhantam
Girime khalam uditaghora sasena maram
Danadi dhamma vidhina jitava Munindo
Tam tejasa bhavatu me jayamangalani (read jaya manggal'aggang)

So the second paragraph and so on, all read jaya manggal'aggang. The second version is read jayamangalani.

Jaya Paritta:

First version starts with:
Siri ditimati tejo
Jaya siddhi mahiddhi maha gunam .......and so on

Second version starts with:
Mahakaruniko natho hitaya sabbapaninam
Puretva parami subba patto sambodhimuttamam
Etena saccavajjena hotu me jayamangalam .....and so on

Can someone senior here please tell me why is that different? And which one to follow? Appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

Postby Cittasanto » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:29 pm



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

Postby mikenz66 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:23 am

Hi Steve,

We also chant that. The additional part, which we follow from the Jaya Paritta, is listed as a separate chant http://thebuddhisttemple.org/index.php? ... &Itemid=73 in my chanting book.
I can't remember what it is called in my book, something to do with blessings, I guess...
I don't believe it's from a sutta.

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

Postby steve19800 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:54 am


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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

Postby mikenz66 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:28 am

Hi Steve, Yes, it is Thai.

I think that, since those particular chants are not directly from suttas, minor variations are not really an issue. And even suttas (and of course pronunciation and rhythm of Pali) vary around SE Asian.

On the other hand, this chant:
Itipi so bhagavā arahaṃ sammā-sambuddho, ...
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... l#dhajagga
is straight out of suttas. And the morning and evening chants are sutta extracts stuck together with some extra stuff for continuity:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ml#morning

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:14 am

hi Steve,
I am not sure about other area customs to do with these chants, but knowing or at least being familiar with both wouldn't hurt for the purpose of chanting.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

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Re: Jaya Manggala and Jaya Paritta

Postby Kusala » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:17 am

One of my favorite rendering of Jaya Manggala

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"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "

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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "


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