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Facebook induced suffering

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby sattva » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:00 am

I permanently disabled my account a few days ago for several reasons.
1. I was never really comfortable asking someone else to be "my friend" and only did it with a few people.
2. What I share with one person, even a friend, I might not want to share with another friend or a family member.
3. I found most of my friends don't use it.
4. The past is the past. I have no one that I hope to find. I have kept in touch with those that matter to me.
5. It was boring and so was I lol. I had nothing to write about and didn't find what I was reading by others that interesting either!
6. I don't trust my info being out there.

Well, there are my reasons. It may be different for others.
with metta,
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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby FrancesB » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:09 am

I don't like FB because it feeds one of my strongest difficulties which is envy of one of my friends (lack of mudita). Unfortunately she is also the kind of person who uses FB to feed her ego. It is not a good combination! My solution was to hide her from my news feed, but because I am still a friend I very occasionally (when weak) go and torment myself by looking at her page. Pathetic I know!! Its improving as I don't get upset anymore and able to understand our differences and my reaction. But still.........

I use FB to post social justice, animal welfare and environmental campaigns, which is useful I think, but as I said I have to use self discipline and sometimes I act in an unskillful way.

metta

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby rowboat » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:40 am

Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
Ud 5.5

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Sekha » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:07 am

This topic comes up very timely for me, as I just decided a few days ago to stop any activity on my facebook page and stop browsing whatever my "friends" share.

Main reasons are the following:

1. "socialization" is a direct impediment to meditation practice, as the Buddha reminds us in such suttas as this one: http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/angu ... 6-118.html
2. I had a tendency to become narcissist and get overly attached to my image.
3. most of what is shared on the facebook does nothing but feed craving and ignorance.

If I ever want to get news from anyone, I can send them an email.
Where knowledge ends, religion begins. - B. Disraeli

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby rucontent » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:34 pm

I am very pleased to see all the input from other members! This forum is wonderful. And much like what FB isn't. Now that some time has settled and i have sat with my discontent a bit more. I see that a possible "wise" solution would be to just not use it very much. I have almost everyone's status hidden, and i only get a few updates.....Dalai Lama, Dhamma stuff, Abraham Hicks, Tolle, etc.......

I have quelled my FB suffering, which was linked possibly to envy of seeing other people's post but it was more aversion at our messed up society. However, it is useful for communicating as if it was email. Granted you could email a person, but there is something about it that makes it easier/convenient. For now, my solution has been not to check it that much. But like a deep sankhara, your only a click away from feeding the monster, whether it be aversion to others mundane comments or the mundane responses that feed the very neurosis that keeps us in bondage.

I also happen to be a dj, who is friends with a lot of people who use FB in a shallow way. Constant self promotion, complaining, grand standing, etc.....

I am almost keeping it not to unfriend a lot of people. I frankly am not sure why i keep it. I struggle with it either way. One thing i have noticed is that when i am less connected, I have a tendency to be more creative and do other stuff. In some ways i feel a social pressure to keep it. Pressure is strong word to use but certainly influenced by the usefulness of it, although it is very minimal.

Thanks

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby bodom » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:35 pm

The only Facebook induced suffering I contend with is the continuous barrage of Farmville invites that I have to reject daily! :tongue:

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:38 am

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Ben » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:28 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Ben » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:30 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Modus.Ponens » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:35 am

He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Ben » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:37 am

Yeah, thanks MP.
I saw that when I looked at my invites and blocked a number of annoying apps from sending me invites.
kind regrds,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby rucontent » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:39 pm

I am glad to see that so many people at least have an opinion. :) Glad also to see that i am not the only that does not find value in the posts. Some people are fortunate probably to have only "aware" friends, and don't have to see too much garbage. I deactivated my Facebook account last week. I like it better. Somehow it feels like there is a new dimension of life opening up. When there are down times, or boring times, FB is not an option. This among other things that i have quit doing, in an attempt to increase my discipline, it is painful and slow but i keep in mind the 10 days I never thought i could make it through and I grew. Not in height! haha

I think the downfall for me was that i was in the music business. And i was friends with lots of people in the "industry" self promoting, liking everything the people with clout say, rude grand standing, etc...... mundane comments like "i just had the best sandwich".....anyway thanks for comments again...have a great day

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby reflection » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:42 pm

Nice applicable Dhammatalk by Ajahn Jayasaro: Facebook or Liberation?
http://feeds.amaravati.org/AmaravatiTalks

Although a short piece is specifically about facebook, the entire talk is quite interesting.

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Hanzze » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:49 pm

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby rowboat » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:11 pm

Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
Ud 5.5

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:47 pm

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby rowboat » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:26 am

Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
Ud 5.5

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Postby Ben » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:30 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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