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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:59 pm 
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Hi, i came across on vajrapublications this sadhana called

Kunrig - uprooting samsara.

does anyone know what its about and that if you need lung for it and is it practiced in other than the drikung lineage and what are the origins of this sadhana.

thanks. :namaste:

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He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:13 pm 
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KonchokZoepa wrote:
Hi, i came across on vajrapublications this sadhana called

Kunrig - uprooting samsara.

does anyone know what its about and that if you need lung for it and is it practiced in other than the drikung lineage and what are the origins of this sadhana.

thanks. :namaste:



It is a sadhana for Sarvadidya related to the yoga tantra sarvadurgatiparishodana i.e. total purification of all evil destinies.

Savavidya is what some Kagyus, and the Sakyas and Gelugpas use for guiding people through the bardo. In Nyingma, one normally uses a practice connected with the peaceful and wrathful deities.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:35 pm 
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can you use the sadhana in and of itself, is an ''independent'' practice to purify evil destinies, and do you need the lung and trid for it, or are these necessary?

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If the thought of demons
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It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:40 pm 
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this sadhana is Sarwabid Vairochana.

can you tell me more of its uses? can you use it as a tool to purify evil destinies or is it a practice done for the dead of a close one.

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It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:27 pm 
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KonchokZoepa wrote:
can you use the sadhana in and of itself, is an ''independent'' practice to purify evil destinies, and do you need the lung and trid for it, or are these necessary?


You need the empowerment, the lung and the instruction.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:53 pm 
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ok, thanks

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In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:03 pm 
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In the Karma Kagyu, the tradition of Sarva Vid Mahavairochana is practiced in three year retreat. It has more mudras than anything I'm familiar with--the mudras alone are pretty complex. In Karma Kagyu tradition, you definitely need wang, lung and tri, and the tri would be pretty "hands-on," I'd expect! :quoteunquote:

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:27 pm 
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ok so this sadhana is not for me at least not now, i just wanted to know becaues the name gives me the wish to practice it. it is attractive, the name i mean. uprooting samsara :p

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Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:48 pm 
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There's also a clip in the film "The Message of the Tibetans," of Karma Kagyu lamas doing this practice. If you have not seen that movie, you should make an effort to see it for sure.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:55 pm 
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the mudras seem pretty elaborate.

yes i have seen the movie, its on youtube, but i didnt see this clip on the movie.

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If the thought of demons
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You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo


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