TaTa wrote:Hey. I here to ask you a favor.
I was debating about secular buddhism with a friend and he ask me if i could show him some references about the buddha talking about this """mistical"""" stuff. Would any sutra expert give me a hand?. Thanks
Start with The Dhammapada, easy reading, stuff about hell realms, karma, rebirth, devas and all kinds of "mystical" stuff. Granted things like Devas are mostly mentioned in passing...but it's plenty "mystical", and the most accessible quick read of the Pali Canon that i've been exposed to.http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/
He's gonna lose miserably if he thinks he can debate that the historical Buddha (near as we know) never talked about stuff like that, it's all over the Pali stuff.
15. The evil-doer grieves here and hereafter; he grieves in both the worlds. He laments and is afflicted, recollecting his own impure deeds.
16. The doer of good rejoices here and hereafter; he rejoices in both the worlds. He rejoices and exults, recollecting his own pure deeds.
17. The evil-doer suffers here and hereafter; he suffers in both the worlds. The thought, "Evil have I done," torments him, and he suffers even more when gone to realms of woe.
44. Who shall overcome this earth, this realm of Yama and this sphere of men and gods? Who shall bring to perfection the well-taught path of wisdom as an expert garland-maker would his floral design?
69. So long as an evil deed has not ripened, the fool thinks it as sweet as honey. But when the evil deed ripens, the fool comes to grief.
71. Truly, an evil deed committed does not immediately bear fruit, like milk that does not turn sour all at once. But smoldering, it follows the fool like fire covered by ashes.
In fact, the Dhammapada has an entire section on Hell, so here ya go:http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .budd.html
"Just as a lotus does not grow out of a well-levelled soil but from the mire, in the same way the awakening mind
is not born in the hearts of disciples in whom the moisture of attachment has dried up. It grows instead in the hearts of ordinary sentient beings who possess in full the fetters of bondage." -Se Chilbu Choki Gyaltsen