Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby underthetree » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:17 am

Your main concern should be whether the group you choose is going to deliver authentic dharma teachings to you as their main and indeed only priority. I don't know very much about either of these two organizations but it's plain that a good deal of their energies go into maintaining their distinct identities. They are brands in the modern sense (unlike Drikung vs Drukpa Kagyu, for instance, or Sakya vs Nyingma) and at least some of your interaction with them will involve identity politics of some kind - as is proved by the fact that you've (sensibly) asked this question before joining either group.

This is my personal opinion so it's worth nothing at all, but I believe that one interaction with a great teacher will set you up better than decades of attendance at a run of the mill centre.

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Simon E. » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:37 am

" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Grigoris » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:50 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Simon E. » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:37 pm

cone referred to his 'bias'.
Your exclamation mark indicates something far less ambigious.
" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Grigoris » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:28 pm

Isn't it amazing how much somebody can read into a simple exclamation mark? :smile:
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Simon E. » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:31 pm

Under certain circumstances...yes it is.
" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Poorbitch » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:40 pm

you are a good guy Simon !


What did you read into my exclamation mark ? :soapbox:
blom blah blum

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Simon E. » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:39 pm

That you are very perceptive.. ;)
" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Grigoris » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:59 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Glyn » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:44 am

Nydahl has at some point fallen out with almost ever Karma Kagyu Lama, including Shamar Rinpoche, so taking Trungpa's reputation for "unconventional" beahviour it wouldn't be an implausible hypothesis.
"It's not ok to practice Dharma sometimes, just when you feel like it. You have to practice all the time" - Lama Rigzin Rinpoche.

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Grigoris » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:27 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby Simon E. » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:59 am

My wife's Root Guru is Thrangu Rinpoche . Her teacher is the Sakya/Kagyu Lama Jampa ( who also sees Thrangu Rinpoche as one of his main teachers ) . They fall each side of the apparent divide.
She has received almost identical advice from both. ' Do your practice, do not dwell in aversion to anyone. Trust the lineage '.
Despite blandishments from the students of both to take sides she has decided to honour all.
I suspect that she may have taken the path quietly chosen by many.
" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Ole Nydahi and Trungpa rinpoche

Postby michaelb » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:04 pm

i would say that following contradictory advice leads to problems. Also, it can harm one's relationship with one person to be close to someone who is working to undermine them.
But given what Simon said, I've changed my mind. I think honouring all is the best way. However, if your lama tells you not to take teachings from another particular lama, if you value your relationship to them, it is best to do wha as they say.

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