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Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Brand New Ambition » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:54 pm

Greetings site,
- I'm interested in learning about Buddhism and making it a part of my life. I've made this decision recently. You see, I've returned from Basic Combat Training on a medical discharge, and, I'm back in the same place with some significant changes coming my way, but ultimately find myself in the doing the same dance. I'm not going to go into the laundry list of things about Buddhism that attracted me. The main thing is me taking responsibility for my current state. Only I can introduce positivity, fulfilment and happiness into my life. I won't let negativity grab hold. Once you give up, you miss out on life and what you could have done. I see people who are going down that road here by the dozen -- I'm in a sea of it -- surrounded by people who will ask themselves what they did with their lives in twenty or thirty years, then realise that they could've done so much with it and missed out on it. That won't be me.

If a list of the reasons why I'm interested in Buddhism is required, I'll be fine with sharing them. I just ask that you PM me questions rather than post them here. The reason for this isn't because I'm shy or want to hide anything, but so that I can give each individual the best response possible that aligns with their wording. A unique and accurate response created just for them in order to get my point across as clearly as possible. The more understood I am, the better the replies I get will be, and what I need to do with that knowledge will be a lot clearer.

So that's my introduction . . .
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Jikan » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:15 pm

Hi Brand New Ambition,

Welcome to DharmaWheel. I hope you find what you seek.
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby David N. Snyder » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:30 pm

Welcome to Dharma Wheel!

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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Luke » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:27 am

Hi Brand New Ambition,

Welcome to Dharma Wheel!

Don't worry, you're not required to do anything or to "prove yourself" here. You're interested in Buddhism and that's enough right there! :thumbsup:

I hope you enjoy our forum and find some useful information which benefits you here.

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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Brand New Ambition » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:49 am

Thank you to everyone to welcomed me here.

Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Is there a recommended point of entry, or are we doing the shaman thing and choosing where we start?
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby smcj » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:06 am

Brand New Ambition wrote:Thank you to everyone to welcomed me here.

Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Is there a recommended point of entry, or are we doing the shaman thing and choosing where we start?

Two different ways to proceed on this. The first is to ask what Dharma centers are close to you, and suggest you go there. You'd be surprised on how often your personal karma works out to simple proximity. The second is to ask what you like about Dharma, or what catches your interest, and trying to find something that suits your taste.
A human being has his limits. And thus, in every conceivable way, with every possible means, he tries to make the teaching enter into his own limits. ChNN
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Jikan » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:45 pm

smcj wrote:
Brand New Ambition wrote:Thank you to everyone to welcomed me here.

Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Is there a recommended point of entry, or are we doing the shaman thing and choosing where we start?

Two different ways to proceed on this. The first is to ask what Dharma centers are close to you, and suggest you go there. You'd be surprised on how often your personal karma works out to simple proximity. The second is to ask what you like about Dharma, or what catches your interest, and trying to find something that suits your taste.


:good:

Brand New Ambition: it's a good idea to visit several different centers & teachers when you are just finding you sea legs. You can ask here about any one in particular that you have experienced--it's surprising how many people here know of this temple in Akron or that teacher in San Antonio or whatever. Once you find a situation where you know you can learn something, then dive in and practice as best you can.

Here's a useful thread:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=14218
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Brand New Ambition » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:17 am

I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby smcj » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:21 am

This can be a secondary source. Primary sources are better. But if that's all you've got, make yourself comfortable!
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Jikan » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:46 pm

Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.


There are opportunities that do not necessarily come up by google search. Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?

Internet discussion boards are never the place for resources, but they can help you find the resources you need.
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby lobster » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:08 am

Brand New Ambition wrote:So that's my introduction . . .


:smile:
Impressive, best intro I have seen in a while.
Study is free on the web. That is dharma.
Get a Buddha image, keep it as a reminder.
Community is where you are headed.

OK That is the three jewels. Hi :hi:
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Brand New Ambition » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:42 am

Jikan wrote:
Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.


There are opportunities that do not necessarily come up by google search. Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?

Internet discussion boards are never the place for resources, but they can help you find the resources you need.

The United States of America.
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Jikan » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:32 am

Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.


...and your city is...

Brand New Ambition wrote:
Jikan wrote: Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?
The United States of America.


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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Kim O'Hara » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:19 am

Brand New Ambition wrote:
Jikan wrote:
Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.


There are opportunities that do not necessarily come up by google search. Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?

Internet discussion boards are never the place for resources, but they can help you find the resources you need.

The United States of America.

Hmmm ... go to DW's Board Index, scroll down to the bottom, and click on the little map of the world to se just how many of us live in the US.
You could them try http://www.buddhanet.info/wbd/region.php?region_id=1 and look through 2785 hits to see which are nearest.

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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Brand New Ambition » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:26 pm

Jikan wrote:...and your city is...

Port Charlotte. It's unheard of, I know.
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby smcj » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:08 pm

Port Charlotte. It's unheard of, I know.

Florida? I've a friend that is a neighbor. She's an Evangelical Christian, so I won't put the two of you in contact. :o


OK, so what about Dharma caught your attention and interest? The philosophy, history, tenets, practices, etc.? HH Dalai Lama? Other writers and books? :reading:
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Brand New Ambition » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:45 am

smcj wrote:
Port Charlotte. It's unheard of, I know.

Florida? I've a friend that is a neighbor. She's an Evangelical Christian, so I won't put the two of you in contact. :o

OK, so what about Dharma caught your attention and interest? The philosophy, history, tenets, practices, etc.? HH Dalai Lama? Other writers and books? :reading:

Haha. Thank you from abstaining. Too many of those are here anyway. This city is a cultural vacuum. Moving on . . .

It looks like you're presenting a window and inviting me to exchange dialogue. I'm not about to let this opportunity slip from my fingers!

Before I go on, I'll explain that I'm not versed in the different sects or disciplines of Buddhism, and I have no idea which would be the best possible fit for me. That said, many things catch my interest, complete honesty. You mention HH Dalai Lama. I often as "What If?" questions. The other day, I asked myself what HH Dalai Lama would do if someone struck him. No, I don't want to do that; it's just a hypothetical. I guess he came into my mind in the first place because of my interest in Buddhism. I asked myself, then ask someone else. The someone else said he wouldn't do anything you'd expect -- no fisticuffs. He'd likely respond with a disappointed tone, telling his attacker why he shouldn't do that in the future. My memory is foggy concerning what exactly they said. That . . . to even have an image such as that of someone is motivating.

There are a million reasons why my interest in Buddhism seems like a joke. I'm non-religious, I'm a misanthrope, I think way too much, I'm not smart, I have a short attention span -- I could go on. I have changes I want to make. Life now feels like nothing serious. I go through the motions. Perhaps this is a symptom of living where I do now, as it's a nowhere place with nothing going for it. It seems those without ambition or drive merge with the way things are. I've tried to leave, and did for a while, yet somehow, I find myself back here. This is another conversation though.

I can't think of a time that I had a gripping moment. Nothing to really "wake me up". Experiences come and go too quickly, and in their passing they are no longer significant. I try to give things value, but they end up as worthless experiences of the past. This, for example. I've done this "tell-all-life-story" once before, and I wanted it to make it something that mattered. Now, I don't even visit the site I did this on anymore -- in fact, this is the first time since I went away that I've thought about it. I need something to wake me up, to make me feel like I'm living, as opposed to simply being alive. That sounds awfully dramatic.

This next one I have a bit trouble typing out, as I've denied it for the longest. It seems that Buddhism can do great things for those who put in time and take it seriously -- as I plan to. Things for the mind. I have mondo issues with my mind. I'm sure I have ADD (sans hyperactive component, thankful of that), and on top of that, I have bipolar disorder. I didn't admit this until a while ago and spent the better part of my life when I was able to realise what that meant distancing myself from it. Why? Well, those who have it where I live (mental illness is very common here for some reason), tend to be very negative individuals, and don't seem to take responsibility for the things they do. I know that an illness makes you unlike yourself, but as someone who believes in accountability, I can't play that game. I never asked for these issues -- the last one especially, and I won't let them consume me either. No one can live my life for me. I won't be that sort who, halfway through their life, realises what a poison such a curse is, and realise the immense damage its created in my life. That won't happen. This is a huge something-to-do with the reason I'm looking into Buddhism. When I think about it, it's not too bad compared to others, as I control it better than most, don't feel the need to be negative (or I wouldn't be here), and want to do away with it . . . for good. I care not of whatever perceived benefits there are. And I want to be able to stay on a mental track, not bound all over the place. Finish a thought, and then move on to the next one. Read a page or two of text on the internet without skipping and skimming.

Phew. We can get positive now! About time, no? I seek knowledge, and find that it does make you powerful. Despite not being the brightest, I find learning and increasing my skillset to be fun. I believe in perfection and always striving to be the best. This is the me that I amaze myself with every day. The me that wants to see all there is to see, do all there is to do, and change the world. I created these guiding principles by which I'm supposed to live my life -- the Three 'A's. Ambition, Adventure, and Adrenaline. I can't deny that I'm a natural leader. I do it without thinking. I just NOW realised that when thinking about a church lock-in at a ranch in the country areas. We played manhunt well into the morning, I organised my team and implemented better ideas that would make us more efficient players. I want to do so much with my life that I could be called the embodiment of Greed! I don't think I'll be able to do it all in one life. Haha. I want to create a legacy that will ensure I "live forever". I simply cannot put into words what I'm about. I-I can't do it, try as I may.

So there you have it. That's me, and why I'm here. I made the tasteless joke here and there, but I take this very seriously, because I do want to be a better person, and am not wasting your time. I want to be the person I know I can be . . . I should be. I want to fix and evolve me. I owe myself that much.

Oh. I apologise for the long read. Carried-away.
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Brand New Ambition » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:39 pm

. . . Er, so yeah. Serious post and all. Kind of spilling everything here.
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Re: Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained

Postby Karma Jinpa » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:38 am

Hi, Brand. Welcome to DW!

Brand New Ambition wrote:Before I go on, I'll explain that I'm not versed in the different sects or disciplines of Buddhism, and I have no idea which would be the best possible fit for me. That said, many things catch my interest, complete honesty. You mention HH Dalai Lama. I often as "What If?" questions. The other day, I asked myself what HH Dalai Lama would do if someone struck him. No, I don't want to do that; it's just a hypothetical. I guess he came into my mind in the first place because of my interest in Buddhism. I asked myself, then ask someone else. The someone else said he wouldn't do anything you'd expect -- no fisticuffs. He'd likely respond with a disappointed tone, telling his attacker why he shouldn't do that in the future. My memory is foggy concerning what exactly they said. That . . . to even have an image such as that of someone is motivating.

His Holiness is a living embodiment of love & compassion. He might not even scold them, or not in any way that we would recognize. Look into a few of his books, like Ethics for the New Millennium, and you'll see what I mean, and why he's such a shining example. As a Bodhisattva, he's kind of on a whole other level, but one we can reach thru training our minds.

There are a million reasons why my interest in Buddhism seems like a joke. I'm non-religious, I'm a misanthrope, I think way too much, I'm not smart, I have a short attention span -- I could go on. I have changes I want to make. Life now feels like nothing serious. I go through the motions. Perhaps this is a symptom of living where I do now, as it's a nowhere place with nothing going for it. It seems those without ambition or drive merge with the way things are. I've tried to leave, and did for a while, yet somehow, I find myself back here. This is another conversation though.

This type of humility will serve you well on the path. Keep hold of it, but be careful not to let it turn into being overly critical, lest you become your own worst enemy. Part of working with our situation is acceptance of who we are, and how we are, in this very moment.

I can't think of a time that I had a gripping moment. Nothing to really "wake me up". Experiences come and go too quickly, and in their passing they are no longer significant. I try to give things value, but they end up as worthless experiences of the past. This, for example. I've done this "tell-all-life-story" once before, and I wanted it to make it something that mattered. Now, I don't even visit the site I did this on anymore -- in fact, this is the first time since I went away that I've thought about it. I need something to wake me up, to make me feel like I'm living, as opposed to simply being alive. That sounds awfully dramatic.

Again, this way of seeing things will be an asset to you. Life is a series of moments that are fleeting, and all things are constantly changing, moment to moment. Yet we all too often don't act like this is true. We act like things are solid and stable, and will continue forever, most especially ourselves. This touches on some rather advanced teachings that are best to receive from a qualified teacher. Suffice it to say you're in the ballpark, or on the right track.

This next one I have a bit trouble typing out, as I've denied it for the longest. It seems that Buddhism can do great things for those who put in time and take it seriously -- as I plan to. Things for the mind. I have mondo issues with my mind. I'm sure I have ADD (sans hyperactive component, thankful of that), and on top of that, I have bipolar disorder. I didn't admit this until a while ago and spent the better part of my life when I was able to realise what that meant distancing myself from it. Why? Well, those who have it where I live (mental illness is very common here for some reason), tend to be very negative individuals, and don't seem to take responsibility for the things they do. I know that an illness makes you unlike yourself, but as someone who believes in accountability, I can't play that game. I never asked for these issues -- the last one especially, and I won't let them consume me either. No one can live my life for me. I won't be that sort who, halfway through their life, realises what a poison such a curse is, and realise the immense damage its created in my life. That won't happen. This is a huge something-to-do with the reason I'm looking into Buddhism. When I think about it, it's not too bad compared to others, as I control it better than most, on't feel the need to be negative (or I wouldn't be here), and want to do away with it . . . for good. I care not of whatever perceived benefits there are. And I want to be able to stay on a mental track, not bound all over the place. Finish a thought, and then move on to the next one. Read a page or two of text on the internet without skipping and skimming.

Such personal responsibility is not only refreshing and healthy, but will also help you understand karma. We are the masters of our own destinies, and it's thru our habitual actions that we've engaged in from beginningless time that have
led to where we are in this life.

Regarding mental illness, there are a few things worthy of noting. One is that such things are only stains, but ultimately aren't there. That's not to say that you should stop taking meds or seeking mental health professionals... Far from it. I've made this mistake myself in the past, having depression. No bueno; trust me. What it means is that you are ultimately pure and undefiled; a nice opposite of the concept of "original sin." The trick is to train in seeing ourselves that way.

Phew. We can get positive now! About time, no? I seek knowledge, and find that it does make you powerful. Despite not being the brightest, I find learning and increasing my skillset to be fun. I believe in perfection and always striving to be the best. This is the me that I amaze myself with every day. The me that wants to see all there is to see, do all there is to do, and change the world. I created these guiding principles by which I'm supposed to live my life -- the Three 'A's. Ambition, Adventure, and Adrenaline. I can't deny that I'm a natural leader. I do it without thinking. I just NOW realised that when thinking about a church lock-in at a ranch in the country areas. We played manhunt well into the morning, I organised my team and implemented better ideas that would make us more efficient players. I want to do so much with my life that I could be called the embodiment of Greed! I don't think I'll be able to do it all in one life. Haha. I want to create a legacy that will ensure I "live forever". I simply cannot put into words what I'm about. I-I can't do it, try as I may.

There is definitely a lot to learn on the path of Dharma. If you enjoy learning new tools you can use, that's certainly a positive. Buddhism has tons of different methods for all different types of beings with their various inclinations and capacities. Be careful with the greed and ego, though. Those are said to be two of the main poisons which lead to all suffering. Best to offer those feelings up to be purified or slain. It might be painful, like a detox, but in the end you will certainly benefit.

So there you have it. That's me, and why I'm here. I made the tasteless joke here and there, but I take this very seriously, because I do want to be a better person, and am not wasting your time. I want to be the person I know I can be . . . I should be. I want to fix and evolve me. I owe myself that much.

Welcome to the board. May it serve as an open forum that helps you grow. Wanting to better yourself is a step in the right direction, and unfortunately not enough people get even that far these days. May you reach the ultimate evolution of unsurpassed, perfect, complete and precious Buddhahood for the benefit of all!
"The Sutras, Tantras, and Philosophical Scriptures are great in number. However life is short, and intelligence is limited, so it's hard to cover them completely. You may know a lot, but if you don't put it into practice, it's like dying of thirst on the shore of a great lake. Likewise, it happens that a common corpse is found in the bed of a great scholar." ~ Karma Chagme

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