termas that mention smoking tobacco
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termas that mention smoking tobacco
hi, i read the smoking tobacco thread and i am interested in knowing if any of you know or have english translated termas that mention smoking cigarettes or Lamas and Rinpoches talking about smoking cigarettes or tobacco.
please post links to termas in this thread that talk about smoking tobacco.
please post links to termas in this thread that talk about smoking tobacco.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
There is a famous text on this subject by Shardza Rinpoche but I don't have any link to that. There was a discussion about this text on the defunct forum Yungdrung rigngaling.
You have an even more famous work by Dudjom Rinpoche based on earlier Termas here :
http://fr.scribd.com/doc/118527483/Dudj ... of-Tobacco
You have an even more famous work by Dudjom Rinpoche based on earlier Termas here :
http://fr.scribd.com/doc/118527483/Dudj ... of-Tobacco
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Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
crazy text. thanks for linking it to me. i have to quit.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
Just a quick comment - there is a very big difference between "I have to quit" or "I ought to quit" and "I want to quit." "I am going to quit" is your strongest motivational aid.KonchokZoepa wrote:i have to quit.
If deep down you do not want to quit and are not totally committed to quitting, you will very likely not quit.
Ask me how I know this.
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Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
no need to ask you, i undestand, i deep down want to quit really, but currently i am gathering strenght to the commitment to quit.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
I quit when I realized it was affecting my breathing....and I figured this out by doing prostrations. It became obvious.
I wish you the best of luck. You CAN do it, believe me.
I wish you the best of luck. You CAN do it, believe me.
དམ་པའི་དོན་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ཆེ་བ་དང་།
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
རྟོག་གེའི་ཡུལ་མིན་བླ་མའི་བྱིན་རླབས་དང་།
སྐལ་ལྡན་ལས་འཕྲོ་ཅན་གྱིས་རྟོགས་པ་སྟེ།
དེ་ནི་ཤེས་རབ་ལ་ནི་ལོ་རྟོག་སེལ།།
"Absolute Truth is not an object of analytical discourse or great discriminating wisdom,
It is realized through the blessing grace of the Guru and fortunate Karmic potential.
Like this, mistaken ideas of discriminating wisdom are clarified."
- (Kyabje Bokar Rinpoche, from his summary of "The Ocean of Definitive Meaning")
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Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
thanks for the support
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
Norbu Rinpoche described an efficacious treatment from Tibetan Medicine way back in 1990 during a retreat. I completely forgot what it was but I'm sure someone from the DC can inform you of this. It was something implying massages with some special ointment, etc. I'm completely unsure of the details but I met somebody from Merigar many years ago who had done it successfully.
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
Dug Sel Man Sang maybe?mutsuk wrote:Norbu Rinpoche described an efficacious treatment from Tibetan Medicine way back in 1990 during a retreat. I completely forgot what it was but I'm sure someone from the DC can inform you of this. It was something implying massages with some special ointment, etc. I'm completely unsure of the details but I met somebody from Merigar many years ago who had done it successfully.
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
*Edit*
The Tibetan Medicine with oil that Mutsuk mentioned might be available upon request (if one has received Chulen instructions or similar and/or has a prescription from a Tibetan Doctor).
Could try to contact Shang Shung Institute or Dr. Phuntsog Wangmo.
Although anyone can order Sorig or Men-Tsee-Khang Medicines:
Health & Beauty
From the North American Shang Shung webstore^.
The Tibetan Medicine with oil that Mutsuk mentioned might be available upon request (if one has received Chulen instructions or similar and/or has a prescription from a Tibetan Doctor).
Could try to contact Shang Shung Institute or Dr. Phuntsog Wangmo.
Although anyone can order Sorig or Men-Tsee-Khang Medicines:
Health & Beauty
From the North American Shang Shung webstore^.
Last edited by Lhug-Pa on Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:15 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
You get pills and massage oil, one week is about 25 bucks (18 euros) excluding postage.
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
"I can quit" as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3p_LuTM73kjustsit wrote:Just a quick comment - there is a very big difference between "I have to quit" or "I ought to quit" and "I want to quit." "I am going to quit" is your strongest motivational aid.KonchokZoepa wrote:i have to quit.
If deep down you do not want to quit and are not totally committed to quitting, you will very likely not quit.
Ask me how I know this.
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.
-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra
"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."
-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats
-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra
"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."
-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
The blurb says, "begin an internal dialogue with his future self to convince his present self that it can, in fact, live without its addiction."Konchog1 wrote:"I can quit" as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3p_LuTM73k
I was taught that its preferable to view it in terms of what you gain rather than what you lose, quit, or give up.
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
Living without the addiction includes gaining good thingsfuterko wrote:The blurb says, "begin an internal dialogue with his future self to convince his present self that it can, in fact, live without its addiction."Konchog1 wrote:"I can quit" as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3p_LuTM73k
I was taught that its preferable to view it in terms of what you gain rather than what you lose, quit, or give up.
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.
-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra
"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."
-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats
-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra
"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."
-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
I do know that in Bhutan, a country that practises Tibetan Buddhism all tobacco use has been out-lawned. Whether this was done for religious, political,health reasons or a combination of these I don't know.
Re: termas that mention smoking tobacco
I don't remember where but I read it was for financial reasons: too many people having cancers because of tobacco usage would cost too much to the country. This has to be checked though.shaunc wrote:I do know that in Bhutan, a country that practises Tibetan Buddhism all tobacco use has been out-lawned. Whether this was done for religious, political,health reasons or a combination of these I don't know.