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Niyama Dhamma

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Niyama Dhamma

Postby Nadi » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:33 pm

Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone knew of a sutta which discusses the five niyama dhammas. I looked in accesstoinsight but couldn't find anything.

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:37 pm

Greetings Nadi,

There is nothing in the suttas about them. They make their first appearance in the commentarial literature I believe... not sure about their status re: Abhidhamma Pitaka.

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby mikenz66 » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:41 pm

According to this Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_B ... categories it's a Commentarial classification.

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby Nadi » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:50 pm

Thanks Retro and Mike... So, is there no formal teaching that discusses these in detail?
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Re: Niyama Dhamma

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby retrofuturist » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:00 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby Nadi » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:11 am

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby jayarava » Fri May 11, 2012 10:48 am

I've just uploaded my translation of the relevant texts

This includes:

Sumaṅgalavilāsinī (2.431),
Atthasālinī (272-274)
Abhidhammāvatāra (CST 66; vs. 468-473; PTS 54), including medieval commentaries on the latter.

Also included are representative texts for the use of the word niyāma in the Nikāyas: Paccaya Sutta (S 12.20), Uppādā Sutta (A 3.134), Āvaraṇa Sutta (A 6.86), Cakkhu Sutta (S 25.1).

Any comments on the translations welcome.

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby robertk » Fri May 11, 2012 2:37 pm

Great stuff, thanks!

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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby Cittasanto » Fri May 11, 2012 6:59 pm

Looks ok I guess :juggling:
Not read it yet but will have a read through over the weekend, The quick glance at the first few pages I have had, looks quite thorough.


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Re: Niyama Dhamma

Postby mikenz66 » Fri May 11, 2012 7:35 pm

Thank you very much for the tranalstions jayarava. Very useful.

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