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The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

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The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby BKh » Thu May 10, 2012 10:25 am

Welcome to the Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge.

The purpose of this thread is to provide support and encouragement for people who would like to memorize small or large passages from the suttas or list of important doctrinal items. When you have found a passage you would like to memorize, post it within quote tags in a message. Then come back an report when you have it memorized or if you need help along the way. If you find a passage already listed in the thread that you would like to memorize, just quote it and add your aspiration to memorize it.

For regular Dhamma Wheel users, seeing the thread bumped back to the top can serve as a reminder to review your text and make sure it is still held in the mind.

Please try to keep the focus on the memorization of passages, not discussing the passages themselves. Tips on memorizing and sharing your experience of memorizing the passage are welcome.

Feel free to post any sutta passages you find that specifically encourage memorization even if you don't plan on memorizing them. There are also several passages that the Buddha himself encouraged his disciples to memorize and it would be good to get them listed here as well.
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby polarbear101 » Thu May 10, 2012 7:28 pm

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby rowboat » Thu May 10, 2012 8:13 pm

I won't post the object of my memorization project in quotes but I have determined, about a month ago, to memorize the Divine Mantra: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai ... antra.html

This will be more difficult for me and take much more time than it would for many people. Fortunately I have downloaded and listen regularly to a good quality recording of Ven. Thanissaro chanting the Divine Mantra very beautifully.
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It does not sodden what is open.
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That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby Cittasanto » Thu May 10, 2012 8:27 pm

I Learnt the Dhammacakkhapavattena, adittpapariyaya & anatalakhana suttas and the funeral chanting in pali, and understand what they are saying reasonably well while I am reciting them, although I havn't done them for a while, will need to brush up :) :anjali: thank-you for the reminder :)

The main thing in memorising I find, is consistency, and a desire to learn them!

I would sugest a book by Ruane which has a nice selection with analasis for a good book to learn passages from!
http://www.amazon.com/Pali-Buddhist-Tex ... 070071068X


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby polarbear101 » Thu May 10, 2012 8:32 pm

"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby BKh » Thu May 10, 2012 9:01 pm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby rowboat » Fri May 11, 2012 1:41 am

Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby jackson » Fri May 11, 2012 6:32 am

I have a pretty terrible memory, but I think this excerpt from the Bahiya Sutta is most worthy of memorization:
"Herein, Bahiya, you should train yourself thus: 'In the seen will be merely what is seen; in the heard will be merely what is heard; in the sensed will be merely what is sensed; in the cognized will be merely what is cognized.' In this way you should train yourself, Bahiya.

"When, Bahiya, for you in the seen is merely what is seen... in the cognized is merely what is cognized, then, Bahiya, you will not be 'with that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'with that,' then, Bahiya, you will not be 'in that.' When, Bahiya, you are not 'in that,' then, Bahiya, you will be neither here nor beyond nor in between the two. Just this is the end of suffering."


Thank you for starting this thread!
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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby Cittasanto » Fri May 11, 2012 7:15 am

May I suggest that it maybe easier to learn common gathas and paritta chants, than to pick passages from the canon?

There are resourses around (such as chanting books) which have a good selection of verses from the canon, and it has the added benefit of being useful for those who go to monasteries where these chants are done, as you would be able to understand the chanting in a fuller way, and be able to chant along with the group.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby BKh » Fri May 11, 2012 9:39 am

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby Cittasanto » Fri May 11, 2012 6:50 pm

Hi BKh,
are people free and clear to learn Pali chanting if they wish? or both? should those who wish to not be encouraged also? or assisted with resources for those who do? or is this a non-specified English memorisation only thread?


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby BKh » Fri May 11, 2012 7:25 pm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby Coyote » Thu May 24, 2012 11:39 am

Hi everyone.

Now having learnt the basic refuges and homage chants, I am endeavouring to move on to something a little more challenging. I have chosen to memorise the Karaniya Metta sutta in Pali, and also understanding its meaning in English as well. As this is a fairly common chant (as I understand it) if anyone here has any advice on memorisation techniques particular to that sutta, I would be very grateful if you could pass them on.
I will try the method suggested by BKh, although it will be interesting to see how this plays out, as I am not interested in route memorisation as such, but more memorising the chant with an understanding of its meaning in English as well.

Metta,

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby BKh » Sun May 27, 2012 5:20 pm

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby Cittasanto » Sun May 27, 2012 6:35 pm

Hi Coyote,
I do have some pali chanting of various suttas using the Thai pali if anyone would like these and the pali english of the text sent me a message


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

Postby Coyote » Tue May 29, 2012 8:32 pm

Hi everyone,

Now that I have finished my exams at uni, I have plenty of time during the summer to spend memorising. At the moment I am trying to learn it in English before attempting the Pali.

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Re: The Dhamma Wheel Memorization Challenge

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