Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained
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Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained
Greetings site,
- I'm interested in learning about Buddhism and making it a part of my life. I've made this decision recently. You see, I've returned from Basic Combat Training on a medical discharge, and, I'm back in the same place with some significant changes coming my way, but ultimately find myself in the doing the same dance. I'm not going to go into the laundry list of things about Buddhism that attracted me. The main thing is me taking responsibility for my current state. Only I can introduce positivity, fulfilment and happiness into my life. I won't let negativity grab hold. Once you give up, you miss out on life and what you could have done. I see people who are going down that road here by the dozen -- I'm in a sea of it -- surrounded by people who will ask themselves what they did with their lives in twenty or thirty years, then realise that they could've done so much with it and missed out on it. That won't be me.
If a list of the reasons why I'm interested in Buddhism is required, I'll be fine with sharing them. I just ask that you PM me questions rather than post them here. The reason for this isn't because I'm shy or want to hide anything, but so that I can give each individual the best response possible that aligns with their wording. A unique and accurate response created just for them in order to get my point across as clearly as possible. The more understood I am, the better the replies I get will be, and what I need to do with that knowledge will be a lot clearer.
So that's my introduction . . .
- I'm interested in learning about Buddhism and making it a part of my life. I've made this decision recently. You see, I've returned from Basic Combat Training on a medical discharge, and, I'm back in the same place with some significant changes coming my way, but ultimately find myself in the doing the same dance. I'm not going to go into the laundry list of things about Buddhism that attracted me. The main thing is me taking responsibility for my current state. Only I can introduce positivity, fulfilment and happiness into my life. I won't let negativity grab hold. Once you give up, you miss out on life and what you could have done. I see people who are going down that road here by the dozen -- I'm in a sea of it -- surrounded by people who will ask themselves what they did with their lives in twenty or thirty years, then realise that they could've done so much with it and missed out on it. That won't be me.
If a list of the reasons why I'm interested in Buddhism is required, I'll be fine with sharing them. I just ask that you PM me questions rather than post them here. The reason for this isn't because I'm shy or want to hide anything, but so that I can give each individual the best response possible that aligns with their wording. A unique and accurate response created just for them in order to get my point across as clearly as possible. The more understood I am, the better the replies I get will be, and what I need to do with that knowledge will be a lot clearer.
So that's my introduction . . .
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Hi Brand New Ambition,
Welcome to DharmaWheel. I hope you find what you seek.
Welcome to DharmaWheel. I hope you find what you seek.
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Welcome to Dharma Wheel!
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Hi Brand New Ambition,
Welcome to Dharma Wheel!
Don't worry, you're not required to do anything or to "prove yourself" here. You're interested in Buddhism and that's enough right there!
I hope you enjoy our forum and find some useful information which benefits you here.
Welcome to Dharma Wheel!
Don't worry, you're not required to do anything or to "prove yourself" here. You're interested in Buddhism and that's enough right there!
I hope you enjoy our forum and find some useful information which benefits you here.
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Thank you to everyone to welcomed me here.
Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Is there a recommended point of entry, or are we doing the shaman thing and choosing where we start?
Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Is there a recommended point of entry, or are we doing the shaman thing and choosing where we start?
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Two different ways to proceed on this. The first is to ask what Dharma centers are close to you, and suggest you go there. You'd be surprised on how often your personal karma works out to simple proximity. The second is to ask what you like about Dharma, or what catches your interest, and trying to find something that suits your taste.Brand New Ambition wrote:Thank you to everyone to welcomed me here.
Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Is there a recommended point of entry, or are we doing the shaman thing and choosing where we start?
1.The problem isn’t ‘ignorance’. The problem is the mind you have right now. (H.H. Karmapa XVII @NYC 2/4/18)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
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smcj wrote:Two different ways to proceed on this. The first is to ask what Dharma centers are close to you, and suggest you go there. You'd be surprised on how often your personal karma works out to simple proximity. The second is to ask what you like about Dharma, or what catches your interest, and trying to find something that suits your taste.Brand New Ambition wrote:Thank you to everyone to welcomed me here.
Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Is there a recommended point of entry, or are we doing the shaman thing and choosing where we start?
Brand New Ambition: it's a good idea to visit several different centers & teachers when you are just finding you sea legs. You can ask here about any one in particular that you have experienced--it's surprising how many people here know of this temple in Akron or that teacher in San Antonio or whatever. Once you find a situation where you know you can learn something, then dive in and practice as best you can.
Here's a useful thread:
http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=14218
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I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.
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This can be a secondary source. Primary sources are better. But if that's all you've got, make yourself comfortable!
1.The problem isn’t ‘ignorance’. The problem is the mind you have right now. (H.H. Karmapa XVII @NYC 2/4/18)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
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There are opportunities that do not necessarily come up by google search. Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.
Internet discussion boards are never the place for resources, but they can help you find the resources you need.
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Brand New Ambition wrote: So that's my introduction . . .
Impressive, best intro I have seen in a while.
Study is free on the web. That is dharma.
Get a Buddha image, keep it as a reminder.
Community is where you are headed.
OK That is the three jewels. Hi
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The United States of America.Jikan wrote:There are opportunities that do not necessarily come up by google search. Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.
Internet discussion boards are never the place for resources, but they can help you find the resources you need.
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...and your city is...Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.
Brand New Ambition wrote:Jikan wrote: Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?
The United States of America.
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Hmmm ... go to DW's Board Index, scroll down to the bottom, and click on the little map of the world to se just how many of us live in the US.Brand New Ambition wrote:The United States of America.Jikan wrote:There are opportunities that do not necessarily come up by google search. Roughly speaking, where are you in the world?Brand New Ambition wrote:I've checked, of course, and there isn't a smidgeon of anything remotely akin or even with a likeness to this religion anywhere in my city, or the ones next to me. Hm. I thought this would be the place for resources.
Internet discussion boards are never the place for resources, but they can help you find the resources you need.
You could them try http://www.buddhanet.info/wbd/region.php?region_id=1 and look through 2785 hits to see which are nearest.
Kim
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Port Charlotte. It's unheard of, I know.Jikan wrote:...and your city is...
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Florida? I've a friend that is a neighbor. She's an Evangelical Christian, so I won't put the two of you in contact.Port Charlotte. It's unheard of, I know.
OK, so what about Dharma caught your attention and interest? The philosophy, history, tenets, practices, etc.? HH Dalai Lama? Other writers and books?
1.The problem isn’t ‘ignorance’. The problem is the mind you have right now. (H.H. Karmapa XVII @NYC 2/4/18)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against lama abuse.
3. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)
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Haha. Thank you from abstaining. Too many of those are here anyway. This city is a cultural vacuum. Moving on . . .smcj wrote:Florida? I've a friend that is a neighbor. She's an Evangelical Christian, so I won't put the two of you in contact.Port Charlotte. It's unheard of, I know.
OK, so what about Dharma caught your attention and interest? The philosophy, history, tenets, practices, etc.? HH Dalai Lama? Other writers and books?
It looks like you're presenting a window and inviting me to exchange dialogue. I'm not about to let this opportunity slip from my fingers!
Before I go on, I'll explain that I'm not versed in the different sects or disciplines of Buddhism, and I have no idea which would be the best possible fit for me. That said, many things catch my interest, complete honesty. You mention HH Dalai Lama. I often as "What If?" questions. The other day, I asked myself what HH Dalai Lama would do if someone struck him. No, I don't want to do that; it's just a hypothetical. I guess he came into my mind in the first place because of my interest in Buddhism. I asked myself, then ask someone else. The someone else said he wouldn't do anything you'd expect -- no fisticuffs. He'd likely respond with a disappointed tone, telling his attacker why he shouldn't do that in the future. My memory is foggy concerning what exactly they said. That . . . to even have an image such as that of someone is motivating.
There are a million reasons why my interest in Buddhism seems like a joke. I'm non-religious, I'm a misanthrope, I think way too much, I'm not smart, I have a short attention span -- I could go on. I have changes I want to make. Life now feels like nothing serious. I go through the motions. Perhaps this is a symptom of living where I do now, as it's a nowhere place with nothing going for it. It seems those without ambition or drive merge with the way things are. I've tried to leave, and did for a while, yet somehow, I find myself back here. This is another conversation though.
I can't think of a time that I had a gripping moment. Nothing to really "wake me up". Experiences come and go too quickly, and in their passing they are no longer significant. I try to give things value, but they end up as worthless experiences of the past. This, for example. I've done this "tell-all-life-story" once before, and I wanted it to make it something that mattered. Now, I don't even visit the site I did this on anymore -- in fact, this is the first time since I went away that I've thought about it. I need something to wake me up, to make me feel like I'm living, as opposed to simply being alive. That sounds awfully dramatic.
This next one I have a bit trouble typing out, as I've denied it for the longest. It seems that Buddhism can do great things for those who put in time and take it seriously -- as I plan to. Things for the mind. I have mondo issues with my mind. I'm sure I have ADD (sans hyperactive component, thankful of that), and on top of that, I have bipolar disorder. I didn't admit this until a while ago and spent the better part of my life when I was able to realise what that meant distancing myself from it. Why? Well, those who have it where I live (mental illness is very common here for some reason), tend to be very negative individuals, and don't seem to take responsibility for the things they do. I know that an illness makes you unlike yourself, but as someone who believes in accountability, I can't play that game. I never asked for these issues -- the last one especially, and I won't let them consume me either. No one can live my life for me. I won't be that sort who, halfway through their life, realises what a poison such a curse is, and realise the immense damage its created in my life. That won't happen. This is a huge something-to-do with the reason I'm looking into Buddhism. When I think about it, it's not too bad compared to others, as I control it better than most, don't feel the need to be negative (or I wouldn't be here), and want to do away with it . . . for good. I care not of whatever perceived benefits there are. And I want to be able to stay on a mental track, not bound all over the place. Finish a thought, and then move on to the next one. Read a page or two of text on the internet without skipping and skimming.
Phew. We can get positive now! About time, no? I seek knowledge, and find that it does make you powerful. Despite not being the brightest, I find learning and increasing my skillset to be fun. I believe in perfection and always striving to be the best. This is the me that I amaze myself with every day. The me that wants to see all there is to see, do all there is to do, and change the world. I created these guiding principles by which I'm supposed to live my life -- the Three 'A's. Ambition, Adventure, and Adrenaline. I can't deny that I'm a natural leader. I do it without thinking. I just NOW realised that when thinking about a church lock-in at a ranch in the country areas. We played manhunt well into the morning, I organised my team and implemented better ideas that would make us more efficient players. I want to do so much with my life that I could be called the embodiment of Greed! I don't think I'll be able to do it all in one life. Haha. I want to create a legacy that will ensure I "live forever". I simply cannot put into words what I'm about. I-I can't do it, try as I may.
So there you have it. That's me, and why I'm here. I made the tasteless joke here and there, but I take this very seriously, because I do want to be a better person, and am not wasting your time. I want to be the person I know I can be . . . I should be. I want to fix and evolve me. I owe myself that much.
Oh. I apologise for the long read. Carried-away.
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. . . Er, so yeah. Serious post and all. Kind of spilling everything here.
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Hi, Brand. Welcome to DW!
led to where we are in this life.
Regarding mental illness, there are a few things worthy of noting. One is that such things are only stains, but ultimately aren't there. That's not to say that you should stop taking meds or seeking mental health professionals... Far from it. I've made this mistake myself in the past, having depression. No bueno; trust me. What it means is that you are ultimately pure and undefiled; a nice opposite of the concept of "original sin." The trick is to train in seeing ourselves that way.
His Holiness is a living embodiment of love & compassion. He might not even scold them, or not in any way that we would recognize. Look into a few of his books, like Ethics for the New Millennium, and you'll see what I mean, and why he's such a shining example. As a Bodhisattva, he's kind of on a whole other level, but one we can reach thru training our minds.Brand New Ambition wrote:Before I go on, I'll explain that I'm not versed in the different sects or disciplines of Buddhism, and I have no idea which would be the best possible fit for me. That said, many things catch my interest, complete honesty. You mention HH Dalai Lama. I often as "What If?" questions. The other day, I asked myself what HH Dalai Lama would do if someone struck him. No, I don't want to do that; it's just a hypothetical. I guess he came into my mind in the first place because of my interest in Buddhism. I asked myself, then ask someone else. The someone else said he wouldn't do anything you'd expect -- no fisticuffs. He'd likely respond with a disappointed tone, telling his attacker why he shouldn't do that in the future. My memory is foggy concerning what exactly they said. That . . . to even have an image such as that of someone is motivating.
This type of humility will serve you well on the path. Keep hold of it, but be careful not to let it turn into being overly critical, lest you become your own worst enemy. Part of working with our situation is acceptance of who we are, and how we are, in this very moment.There are a million reasons why my interest in Buddhism seems like a joke. I'm non-religious, I'm a misanthrope, I think way too much, I'm not smart, I have a short attention span -- I could go on. I have changes I want to make. Life now feels like nothing serious. I go through the motions. Perhaps this is a symptom of living where I do now, as it's a nowhere place with nothing going for it. It seems those without ambition or drive merge with the way things are. I've tried to leave, and did for a while, yet somehow, I find myself back here. This is another conversation though.
Again, this way of seeing things will be an asset to you. Life is a series of moments that are fleeting, and all things are constantly changing, moment to moment. Yet we all too often don't act like this is true. We act like things are solid and stable, and will continue forever, most especially ourselves. This touches on some rather advanced teachings that are best to receive from a qualified teacher. Suffice it to say you're in the ballpark, or on the right track.I can't think of a time that I had a gripping moment. Nothing to really "wake me up". Experiences come and go too quickly, and in their passing they are no longer significant. I try to give things value, but they end up as worthless experiences of the past. This, for example. I've done this "tell-all-life-story" once before, and I wanted it to make it something that mattered. Now, I don't even visit the site I did this on anymore -- in fact, this is the first time since I went away that I've thought about it. I need something to wake me up, to make me feel like I'm living, as opposed to simply being alive. That sounds awfully dramatic.
Such personal responsibility is not only refreshing and healthy, but will also help you understand karma. We are the masters of our own destinies, and it's thru our habitual actions that we've engaged in from beginningless time that haveThis next one I have a bit trouble typing out, as I've denied it for the longest. It seems that Buddhism can do great things for those who put in time and take it seriously -- as I plan to. Things for the mind. I have mondo issues with my mind. I'm sure I have ADD (sans hyperactive component, thankful of that), and on top of that, I have bipolar disorder. I didn't admit this until a while ago and spent the better part of my life when I was able to realise what that meant distancing myself from it. Why? Well, those who have it where I live (mental illness is very common here for some reason), tend to be very negative individuals, and don't seem to take responsibility for the things they do. I know that an illness makes you unlike yourself, but as someone who believes in accountability, I can't play that game. I never asked for these issues -- the last one especially, and I won't let them consume me either. No one can live my life for me. I won't be that sort who, halfway through their life, realises what a poison such a curse is, and realise the immense damage its created in my life. That won't happen. This is a huge something-to-do with the reason I'm looking into Buddhism. When I think about it, it's not too bad compared to others, as I control it better than most, on't feel the need to be negative (or I wouldn't be here), and want to do away with it . . . for good. I care not of whatever perceived benefits there are. And I want to be able to stay on a mental track, not bound all over the place. Finish a thought, and then move on to the next one. Read a page or two of text on the internet without skipping and skimming.
led to where we are in this life.
Regarding mental illness, there are a few things worthy of noting. One is that such things are only stains, but ultimately aren't there. That's not to say that you should stop taking meds or seeking mental health professionals... Far from it. I've made this mistake myself in the past, having depression. No bueno; trust me. What it means is that you are ultimately pure and undefiled; a nice opposite of the concept of "original sin." The trick is to train in seeing ourselves that way.
There is definitely a lot to learn on the path of Dharma. If you enjoy learning new tools you can use, that's certainly a positive. Buddhism has tons of different methods for all different types of beings with their various inclinations and capacities. Be careful with the greed and ego, though. Those are said to be two of the main poisons which lead to all suffering. Best to offer those feelings up to be purified or slain. It might be painful, like a detox, but in the end you will certainly benefit.Phew. We can get positive now! About time, no? I seek knowledge, and find that it does make you powerful. Despite not being the brightest, I find learning and increasing my skillset to be fun. I believe in perfection and always striving to be the best. This is the me that I amaze myself with every day. The me that wants to see all there is to see, do all there is to do, and change the world. I created these guiding principles by which I'm supposed to live my life -- the Three 'A's. Ambition, Adventure, and Adrenaline. I can't deny that I'm a natural leader. I do it without thinking. I just NOW realised that when thinking about a church lock-in at a ranch in the country areas. We played manhunt well into the morning, I organised my team and implemented better ideas that would make us more efficient players. I want to do so much with my life that I could be called the embodiment of Greed! I don't think I'll be able to do it all in one life. Haha. I want to create a legacy that will ensure I "live forever". I simply cannot put into words what I'm about. I-I can't do it, try as I may.
Welcome to the board. May it serve as an open forum that helps you grow. Wanting to better yourself is a step in the right direction, and unfortunately not enough people get even that far these days. May you reach the ultimate evolution of unsurpassed, perfect, complete and precious Buddhahood for the benefit of all!So there you have it. That's me, and why I'm here. I made the tasteless joke here and there, but I take this very seriously, because I do want to be a better person, and am not wasting your time. I want to be the person I know I can be . . . I should be. I want to fix and evolve me. I owe myself that much.
"The Sutras, Tantras, and Philosophical Scriptures are great in number. However life is short, and intelligence is limited, so it's hard to cover them completely. You may know a lot, but if you don't put it into practice, it's like dying of thirst on the shore of a great lake. Likewise, a common corpse is found in the bed of a great scholar." ~ Karma Chagme
དྲིན་ཆེན་རྩ་བའི་བླ་མ་སྐྱབས་རྗེ་མགར་ཆེན་ཁྲི་སྤྲུལ་རིན་པོ་ཆེ་ཁྱེད་མཁྱེན་ནོ།།
རྗེ་བཙུན་བླ་མ་མཁས་གྲུབ་ཀརྨ་ཆགས་མེད་མཁྱེན་ནོ། ཀརྨ་པ་མཁྱེན་ནོཿ