Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

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Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:24 am

today starts these teachings inthe DC. so can anyone tell me what this is about ?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby Norwegian » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:27 pm

Dzogchen.
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:57 pm

yes i know that but a bit more in detail. is it ok to participate even though it would be my first dzogchen teachings ?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby Jikan » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:21 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:yes i know that but a bit more in detail. is it ok to participate even though it would be my first dzogchen teachings ?

Sure, participate.
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby Lhasa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:41 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:today starts these teachings inthe DC. so can anyone tell me what this is about ?


This is what it says on the webcast site:

"The Most Important Points on the View, Meditation, Behavior and Fruit (lTa sgom spyod ’bras kyi gnad gzer), also known as The Upadesha on the Most Important Points of Ati (A ti’i gnad gzer man ngag), received in a dream from Changchub Dorje as inseparable from Garab Dorje and Padmasambhava, contains the essence of the Ati Dzogpa Chenpo teaching in few verses."
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:56 pm

sounds pretty high teachings. i havent even received the direct introduction yet.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby Lhasa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:03 pm

He gives Guru Yoga today, that's all you need to begin.
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:06 pm

ill be there.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:20 pm

are you sure there will be guru yoga since it doesnt mention guru yoga?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby heart » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:31 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:are you sure there will be guru yoga since it doesnt mention guru yoga?


He always transmit guru yoga on the first day.

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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby T. Chokyi » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:23 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:sounds pretty high teachings. i havent even received the direct introduction yet.



Even if you didn't have the "direct introduction" on one of the formal
days Rinpoche gives these, its said that he is giving "direct introduction"
all the time. :bow:
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:52 pm

it is my first time listening to live webcast. is it common that it cuts the audio or video off.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:55 pm

In my experience, yes.
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby Lhasa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:56 pm

If the video cuts out, sometimes the audio still works, there is a link on the top of the page. Also, there is a translation link if those two are down.
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:35 pm

ah after my message it worked perfectly until the end. did anyone else watch it and can someone tell me what was the lung or the name of the practice given?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby T. Chokyi » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:37 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:ah after my message it worked perfectly until the end. did anyone else watch it and can someone tell me what was the lung or the name of the practice given?


That was the short Tun from The Tun Book.
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:46 pm

thanks, i just found it from the shangshungstore. thanks :smile:
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby T. Chokyi » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:49 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:thanks, i just found it from the shangshungstore. thanks :smile:


You're very welcome, you may want to read about the book...
*Reserved items are materials intended for the Dzogchen Community. In order to purchase this item one must be a current member of the Dzogchen Community, and must have received Transmission from Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

If you join you can buy the Tun book, and listen to the re-runs too....and see the video rather than just the audio...big perks and its not very expensive to join.

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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby KonchokZoepa » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:52 pm

actually i could see the video without being a member and i intend to join the community next week, i just put some money on my paypal and its there next week so then i can join :)
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Introduction to Longsal Ati Nadzer

Postby T. Chokyi » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:55 pm

KonchokZoepa wrote:actually i could see the video without being a member and i intend to join the community next week, i just put some money on my paypal and its there next week so then i can join :)


Thats really great Konchok, congratulations to you.

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