Qing Tian wrote: I have stated that in lowering my carbohydrate input I have noticed that my BG levels are now within normal limits. This correlation is interesting, but but not once have I stated a causative link.
Again if you would have exited the realm of the "Anecdotal Annies" for a serious approach, you would have known why: hint, it has nothing to do with high carbohydrate intake or carb intake(other than generally the more complex carbs, the lower your blood glucose and weight, since you are displaying an overload of protein and fat from animal sources).Effect of Weight Loss With Lifestyle Intervention on Risk of Diabetes
In that study weight loss was the dominant factor in reduced diabetes incidence. The effect of weight loss on fasting blood sugars and hemoglobin A1c in overweight and obese diabetics
Those who lost weight dropped their fasting blood glucose levels.
This is well known in research literature, that losing weight improves almost all biomarkers like fasting blood glucose, instead using your breathtaking anecdotal approach, you would have us believe this is associated with carbs.
Qing Tian wrote:My carb intake was THIS BIG and now it is THIS BIG. This is, by ANY view, a definition of LOWERED.
Really? I feel like I am the one who has to explain things like to children, because you lot insist on believing all sorts of made up nonsense and popular myths that are around, yet you have the temerity that my beliefs which I can back up, are not based on reason and yours which you cannot and have to thus resort to passive aggressive demands of banning another member.
I am the only vegan posting in this thread, yet you would have me banned. I am the only one who actually doesn't get his dietary advice from comedians(Fat Head), celebrities(Hugh Jackman, Drew Carey), advise nonsense like "look at bodybuilders"(they are all on winstrol, dianabol, etc.). This is serious business: 70% of Americans are overweight, 35% are obese, the average American needs 4.5 medications! No wonder why this dangerous country full of people destroying themselves slowly are also destroying the entire world with their vast imperialist endeavors.
Now since you lot love anecdotes:
-- most people I know whine if they have to walk even 3 blocks away
-- both of my neighbors to the left of my house are obese, and since they are sedentary and eat to much, their child is now obese
-- every fat person I know complains about their weight, says they are trying to lose it, and they never do on the long-term
-- recently two people I know brought their one year old over and they feed him ground rice and ground beef(which even the mainstream is not enough dumb enough to do, Gerber and other big companies sell ground fruit and vegetables for babies). No surprise that baby has a gut and is overweight right out of the starting gate, like her parents.
-- late last year I bought two racquetball rackets, no one in my social circle will actually play as most Americans are very sedentary and lazy(but they will whine about health problems and weight...). I would have to post an ad on craigslist to find a partner... That is the USA...
This society is profoundly sick. What you guys would have us do is focus on anecdotes from ill-disciplined people who lose weight or temporarily lower their blood glucose(during this period of weight loss), when it is really too simple: 1) move your ass 2) eat whole, minimally processed, plant foods. Only rich societies predicated on global imperialism like the Anglosphere, Western Europe and their allies have the luxury to have populations of massively obese and chronically sick people(ok the colonized world is sick, but from poor sanitation which they would do something about if the imperialist nations full of the fat and whiny did not have them in debt spirals). The people who can only afford rice and tubers like potatoes for their majority of their calories, don't have these problems. If there was a social network called "Honest Book" it would mostly read: "Woke up. Shitted. Ate. Went to work. Ate again. Work is over. Mooped on the couch. Ate again. More tv this time on the bed. Slept." And just repeat, everyday. Instead we have Facebook where people try to only post the glamorous parts of their lives, thus they are trying to live in the projection of what they think others want to hear. Similarly everyone I know who is trying to lose weight is always willing to share how they exercised(just barely) but they are not as ready to share their failings. This is the problem with the low-carb crowd: a lot of anecdotes about improved bio-markers which researchers know is from the weight loss. But the low-carb crowd generally cannot keep the weight off, so it is all moot. Perhaps the most frustrating thing is you are not even doing low-carb or "lowered carb"(nonsense you made up) yet believe in that bunk and care to defend it.