gandy wrote:I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
There's plenty of documented cases of children recollecting past lives:
http://www.medicine.virginia.edu/clinic ... types-page
Children Who Claim to Remember Previous Lives
Simon E. wrote:One of my teachers once said that those who expect a blank absence after death will experience ( or not experience ) just that, until the conditions for that are exhausted.
gandy wrote:so how does buddhism reconcile with this? you know there are bunch of people saying that they were seeing a tunnel of light felt a loving presence, some interpret this as god other's as a state of bardo
nevertheless here are the facts
> a study than only 4% of people having near death experiences
http://link.springer.com/article/10.102 ... 078#page-1
> another study on people who had heart attacks were in death like coma without a working heart and most of them didn't have near death experiences, almost all of them turned to a rationalist-materialist
> there is the option that near death experiences are just hormonally induced accidental lucid dreams
http://lnco.epfl.ch/files/content/sites ... ez_NC(chap)_leaving%20body%20and%20life%20behind-out%20of%20body%20and%20near%20death%20experience.pdf
> or just rare hallucinations induced by oxygen depravation
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oof-heaven
> and in some case it's just people looking for attention
> there is an experiment in which scientist induced near death experiences in living people using a magnetic beam
gandy wrote:so how does buddhism reconcile with this?
KeithBC wrote:You have proved that near-death experiences are not an afterlife. Congratulations. However, anyone giving the issue more than a moment's thought would have come to the same conclusion without the neeed for a lot of research. Near-death is not death. There never was any reason to assume that what happens in a near-death situation has anything to do with what happens after death.
Om mani padme hum
Malcolm wrote:gandy wrote:so how does buddhism reconcile with this?
There is no afterlife, just one long bardo that begins with delusion and ends with awakening.
Sherab wrote:Check this out - Pam Reynolds NDE:
Indeed: NDE = Non Death Experience. Close perhaps, but not the same thing.
invisiblediamond wrote:Notice how you've selected similar stories? Now you won't find birds of a feather here. But you will elsewhere. When you all start confirming each other, and making plans, you will understand karma and rebirth. Change your ideas and you change societies.
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