Longde Teachings

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Longde Teachings

Postby Fa Dao » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:47 pm

SSI now has Rinpoches Longde teachings on DVD!!!
http://www.shangshungstore.org/index.ph ... tail&p=539
I have noticed that Rinpoche has been giving the lung for Ngondzog Gyalpo at the end of webcasts. Does this constitute transmission? Does this mean that a person could get this and practice it?
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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Malcolm » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:51 pm





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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Fa Dao » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:52 am

Thanks Malcolm..I was hoping you would respond. Problem is that Rinpoche has only done the Longde retreat a few times and I am sure that a lot of people have not had the transmission. So I wonder why they put it out on DVD then. I am a big fan of Longde..simple and direct so that even guys like me can get it.
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Re: Longde Teachings

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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Norwegian » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:11 pm

oldbob,
"For me[...]"

It's not up to you however.

It's up to ChNN, who has specifically stated time and time again, that to do Longde practice, you need to receive Longde transmission and teachings. In other words participate in person at the retreat site, or via closed webcast when that happens, on Longde.

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Postby Sönam » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:19 pm

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Malcolm » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:21 pm





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Re: Longde Teachings

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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Pero » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:17 am

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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Fa Dao » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:59 am

Pero,
sorry if I wasnt more clear..what I meant was that for most of the practices lung is given at almost every retreat at the end..not so with the Longde..he doesnt do it very often..I was just wondering out loud why that is
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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Bhusuku » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:01 am

Fa Dao, I think you can buy everything @ SSI if you received DI (except for the longsal books), however, that doesn't mean you can practice everything without receiving the particular transmission. For example, there is a book entitled "Longchenpa's Precious Ship" which includes a Kunjed Gyalpo Guruyoga, but AFAIK, Rinpoche gave the transmission for this Guruyoga only once so far...

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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Fa Dao » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:50 am

Bhusuku,
I have watched the last two webcasts I was wondering about it for others
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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Pero » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:27 am

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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Sönam » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:25 am

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By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: Longde Teachings

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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Fa Dao » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:28 pm

ok then, so if it isnt the AOM/Ngondzog Gyalpo lung then I wonder what does exactly constitute transmission for Longde? Its just that personally I have found that by applying the essential principles of Longde and the 4 DA to basically everything I do to be extremely helpful for me. I was hoping others could have easier access and not have to wait for however many years for the next retreat. Thats why I was wondering about the DVD coming out.
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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Malcolm » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:29 pm





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Human life spent in
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Re: Longde Teachings

Postby Fa Dao » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:36 pm

Ok then..thanks Malcolm..so its the entire initiation that is required not just the lung. Got it. Interesting how these things work. Sometimes all you need is just to hear Rinpoche say a mantra etc and other times you need an entire initiation. Wish there was a guideline book out there for all of these things or even have it posted on the website what exactly is required for each thing that Rinpoche teaches...sure would be helpful...
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche


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