13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
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13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
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13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
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Buddha Shakyamuni & Avalokiteshvara Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32607819 (Click show more)
Manjushri & Mahakala Empowerments:
1st vid: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32614783
2nd vid: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32614783
Medicine Buddha & Padmasambhava Empowerments:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32651547
Vajrapani Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32659159
Achi Chokyi Drolma Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32662533
White Tara & Green Tara Empowerments:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32694075
Red Kurukulle Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32702211
Vajrasattva Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32706293
Amitabha Empowerment:
1st vid:http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32737547
2nd vid: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32742909
Vajrakilaya Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/26843451
H.E. Garchen Rinpoche's Teachings on How to
Receive an Empowerment Online:
The touching of the vase to the crown of the head is the outer empowerment. The inner empowerment is to visualize yourself as the deity. The real empowerment is to realize the nature of your mind.
When you cultivate bodhicitta, that is the real deity, and when you do this, that is when you actually receive the empowerment over the internet.
If you live near the temple and think, "Oh, I don't need to go to the temple; I can just receive the empowerment over the internet," that is not the right motivation. If you have the opportunity to come to the temple, then you should come.If you don't live nearby and cannot come, but with all your heart would like to, that is the right motivation for receiving the empowerment over the internet.
Whoever has faith and devotion will receive the empowerment regardless of where they are, because the dharmakaya pervades like space. Even if you come to the temple to receive an empowerment, if you have no devotion you still will not receive it.
To quote Lord Jigten Sumgon, "You receive the empowerment only when you understand the meaning of the empowerment."
Much thanks to HE Garchen Rinpoche, and if you appreciate the service he's done please send a donation: http://www.garchen.net/GBI-Shop/index...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73yi0_DG3hk
13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
ShaktipatSeer2·612 videos
Buddha Shakyamuni & Avalokiteshvara Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32607819 (Click show more)
Manjushri & Mahakala Empowerments:
1st vid: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32614783
2nd vid: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32614783
Medicine Buddha & Padmasambhava Empowerments:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32651547
Vajrapani Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32659159
Achi Chokyi Drolma Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32662533
White Tara & Green Tara Empowerments:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32694075
Red Kurukulle Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32702211
Vajrasattva Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32706293
Amitabha Empowerment:
1st vid:http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32737547
2nd vid: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/32742909
Vajrakilaya Empowerment:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/26843451
H.E. Garchen Rinpoche's Teachings on How to
Receive an Empowerment Online:
The touching of the vase to the crown of the head is the outer empowerment. The inner empowerment is to visualize yourself as the deity. The real empowerment is to realize the nature of your mind.
When you cultivate bodhicitta, that is the real deity, and when you do this, that is when you actually receive the empowerment over the internet.
If you live near the temple and think, "Oh, I don't need to go to the temple; I can just receive the empowerment over the internet," that is not the right motivation. If you have the opportunity to come to the temple, then you should come.If you don't live nearby and cannot come, but with all your heart would like to, that is the right motivation for receiving the empowerment over the internet.
Whoever has faith and devotion will receive the empowerment regardless of where they are, because the dharmakaya pervades like space. Even if you come to the temple to receive an empowerment, if you have no devotion you still will not receive it.
To quote Lord Jigten Sumgon, "You receive the empowerment only when you understand the meaning of the empowerment."
Much thanks to HE Garchen Rinpoche, and if you appreciate the service he's done please send a donation: http://www.garchen.net/GBI-Shop/index...
Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
I really think you have to watch this live if you really want the empowerment. Recordings are no good.
/magnus
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
That specific question was asked to Garchen Rinpoche through the live chat on ustream. His answer was 'yes' you can receive empowerment from his recorded empowerments online.
Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
If you have faith.Lhasa wrote:That specific question was asked to Garchen Rinpoche through the live chat on ustream. His answer was 'yes' you can receive empowerment from his recorded empowerments online.
Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
Magnus is right, the dharmakaya only pervades everything during the empowerment. The rest of the time you are SOL.heart wrote:I really think you have to watch this live if you really want the empowerment. Recordings are no good.
/magnus
"Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour."
-Padmasambhava
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
If people have faith in this, then fine. I don't personally believe one can receive a valid empowerment though a recording. But that is just me following the advice of my guru. Your mileage might vary.Karma Dorje wrote:Magnus is right, the dharmakaya only pervades everything during the empowerment. The rest of the time you are SOL.heart wrote:I really think you have to watch this live if you really want the empowerment. Recordings are no good.
/magnus
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
I seriously doubt that, perhaps he didn't understand the question. However, I have heard him say that receiving it by the way of livestream is valid.Lhasa wrote:That specific question was asked to Garchen Rinpoche through the live chat on ustream. His answer was 'yes' you can receive empowerment from his recorded empowerments online.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
Karma Dorje wrote:Magnus is right, the dharmakaya only pervades everything during the empowerment. The rest of the time you are SOL.heart wrote:I really think you have to watch this live if you really want the empowerment. Recordings are no good.
/magnus
and how does not the dharmakaya pervade everything if its not empowerment. dharmakaya pervades everything period.
and what is SOL.
I read in the bardo guidebook by Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche that if you dont generate realization during the empowerment, you dont receive the empowerment. you just receive the blessing of having participated in the empowerment. and i think this is a common misunderstanding among westerners that what empowerment actually is. people just think that if the vase or torma touches your head you receive the empowerment. i think that way you only get permission to practice the deity if you get the lung with it, connection to the deity and the guru. but no empowerment. you dont receive the blessing and the realization that the guru is offering you. i think you will receive as much as you are open and receptive. and from my point of view, dharmakaya pervades everything and transcends time so recording or not its the same. and sometimes when i listen to a recording of something its like God is directly talking to me, so i defenitely think and believe that there are blessings and empowerments in the recordings, allthough it is not the same as receiving empowerment live in the gompa or through livestream.
but if Garchen Rinpoche says you can receive the empowerment through the recordings i would believe him, and this is the second thread i have come across someone saying you can receive them through recordings. i think its mostly up to you if you are open to receive the empowerment or not.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
Good Lord, did I really need <snark> tags on that comment?KonchokZoepa wrote:and how does not the dharmakaya pervade everything if its not empowerment. dharmakaya pervades everything period.Karma Dorje wrote: Magnus is right, the dharmakaya only pervades everything during the empowerment. The rest of the time you are SOL.
and what is SOL.
"Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour."
-Padmasambhava
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
what are snark tags ?
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
Then why watch the recording, you could just pick up any empowerment you want at any time, no? Good luck with that!KonchokZoepa wrote: but if Garchen Rinpoche says you can receive the empowerment through the recordings i would believe him, and this is the second thread i have come across someone saying you can receive them through recordings. i think its mostly up to you if you are open to receive the empowerment or not.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
i think you ignored that quote and did not really read it. or want to hear it.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
No, the only quote by Garchen Rinpoche in this thread is not talking about recordings. I have taken several empowerment's from Garchen Rinpoche in live webcasts and the quote above corresponds to what he said in those teachings. He wasn't talking about recordings, he was talking about live streaming.KonchokZoepa wrote:i think you ignored that quote and did not really read it. or want to hear it.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
Gyaltsen Tashi wrote: H.E. Garchen Rinpoche's Teachings on How to
Receive an Empowerment Online:
The touching of the vase to the crown of the head is the outer empowerment. The inner empowerment is to visualize yourself as the deity. The real empowerment is to realize the nature of your mind.
When you cultivate bodhicitta, that is the real deity, and when you do this, that is when you actually receive the empowerment over the internet.
If you live near the temple and think, "Oh, I don't need to go to the temple; I can just receive the empowerment over the internet," that is not the right motivation. If you have the opportunity to come to the temple, then you should come.If you don't live nearby and cannot come, but with all your heart would like to, that is the right motivation for receiving the empowerment over the internet.
Whoever has faith and devotion will receive the empowerment regardless of where they are, because the dharmakaya pervades like space. Even if you come to the temple to receive an empowerment, if you have no devotion you still will not receive it.
To quote Lord Jigten Sumgon, "You receive the empowerment only when you understand the meaning of the empowerment."
i dont think this quotes outrules recordings.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....
In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….
-Milarepa
OMMANIPADMEHUNG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
It certainly doesn't include them. This above is more or less what he said during one livestream I participated in. It was obvious to me he was talking about livestream and not recordings.KonchokZoepa wrote:Gyaltsen Tashi wrote: H.E. Garchen Rinpoche's Teachings on How to
Receive an Empowerment Online:
The touching of the vase to the crown of the head is the outer empowerment. The inner empowerment is to visualize yourself as the deity. The real empowerment is to realize the nature of your mind.
When you cultivate bodhicitta, that is the real deity, and when you do this, that is when you actually receive the empowerment over the internet.
If you live near the temple and think, "Oh, I don't need to go to the temple; I can just receive the empowerment over the internet," that is not the right motivation. If you have the opportunity to come to the temple, then you should come.If you don't live nearby and cannot come, but with all your heart would like to, that is the right motivation for receiving the empowerment over the internet.
Whoever has faith and devotion will receive the empowerment regardless of where they are, because the dharmakaya pervades like space. Even if you come to the temple to receive an empowerment, if you have no devotion you still will not receive it.
To quote Lord Jigten Sumgon, "You receive the empowerment only when you understand the meaning of the empowerment."
i dont think this quotes outrules recordings.
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
I have emailed to Garchen Institute for clarification. I will post here when I get an answer.
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-Padmasambhava
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Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
I am eager to hear the official response. This is an interesting issue that lamas have very divergent viewpoints about.
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The answer from the Garchen Institute is unambiguous and as follows (emphasis added):
We were told the following by Garchen Rinpoche for empowerments that Garchen Institute has put on Ustream. The recordings can be included as well as the livestream. It is not my impression that these apply to all empowerments available online, but for the ones he’s approved. Other lamas may have different requirements and it is important to follow the instructions of the Lama giving the empowerments.
We were told the following by Garchen Rinpoche for empowerments that Garchen Institute has put on Ustream. The recordings can be included as well as the livestream. It is not my impression that these apply to all empowerments available online, but for the ones he’s approved. Other lamas may have different requirements and it is important to follow the instructions of the Lama giving the empowerments.
Hello Everyone,
We have received several inquiries asking if one actually receives the empowerment if done by streaming, and following is Rinpoche’s reply:
“The touching of the vase to the crown of the head is the outer empowerment. The inner empowerment is to visualize yourself as the deity. The real empowerment is to realize the nature of your mind.
“When you cultivate bodhicitta, that is the real deity, and when you do this, that is when you actually receive the empowerment over the internet.
“If you live near the temple and think, ‘Oh, I don’t need to go to the temple; I can just receive the empowerment over the internet,’ that is not the right motivation. If you have the opportunity to come to the temple, then you should come.
“If you don't live nearby and cannot come, but with all your heart would like to, that is the right motivation for receiving the empowerment over the internet.”
May all be auspicious!
"Although my view is higher than the sky, My respect for the cause and effect of actions is as fine as grains of flour."
-Padmasambhava
-Padmasambhava
Re: 13 Precious Drikung Kagyu Empowerments
Thank you, Karma Dorje.