It is clear that most the low-carbers in this thread need to do some serious reading on the relevant research on nutrition and diet, and avoid bro-scientists promoting Paleo and low-carb businessmen, marketers like Atkins, et al. You guys are in no position to give advice, I seriously doubt most of you even have your own weight and health in control. If you guys want to be unhealthy and addicted to bad foods, do it, be it. Just don't presume to advise others when you cannot advise yourselves on this topic.
Most large populations that have been trim and free of the chronic diseases most Westerners are afflicted with today have consumed a majority of their calories from carbs. What the low-carbers want us to do is become anecdotal nancies and all focus on the intensely unhealthy people around us and their moderate success at losing weight, which they gain back anyway.
To you it is diet and taste preference, to animals it is their lives. I will always side with the oppressed, genocided animals over whiny, addicted meat eaters, who anyway are likely fat and sick from their addiction anyway and taking several medications, always using antacids, etc., just to cope from day to day.
No humans do not have that diverse health requirements and responses to diet.You would have known this if cared for anything but the anecdotal annie stories of fat meat addicts(who only consume usually overly processed vegetables, grains, and fruit as a garnish or side to the meat):
Dr. Joel Fuhrman wrote:
Do Primitive Peoples Really Live Longer?
No. For example, Inuit Greenlanders, who historically have had limited access to fruits and vegetables, have the worst longevity statistics in North America. Research from the past and present shows that they die on the average about 10 years younger and have a higher rate of cancer than the overall Canadian population.
1Similar statistics are available for the high meat-consuming Maasai in Kenya. They eat a diet high in wild hunted meats and have the worst life expectancy in the modern world. Life expectancy is 45 years for women and 42 years for men. African researchers report that, historically, Maasai rarely lived beyond age 60. Adult mortality figures on the Kenyan Maasai show that they have a 50% chance of dying before the age of 59.2
Also you seem too ignorant to know paleo is low-carb just rebranded with caveman rhetoric and appeal to nature fallacies. But I guess you will continue with your made up reality where being overweight is actually healthy and the epitome of athletic performance and endurance, but of course you cannot cite anything to prove such a laughable claim...
Bro-science is a term that is widely in circulation and which Plant Positive
used to label the dangerous charlatans who created the Paleo diet, a product of modern marketing, in his Primitive Nutrition series on Youtube.
That guy really destroyed all the arguments of the unqualified bro-scientists who you follow by looking at their sources and arguments and countering them. They frequently cherry-pick minority opinions among nutrition researchers, quote findings out of context, and often enough they just cannot read the data or studies they are referencing properly since they lack the credentials or expertise. He also does the same for other low-carbers and cholesterol denialists like the Atkins crew.
In an archived version of her webpage which she has since removed,
Denise Minger, mentioned she was an English major and freelance health writer. Meaning if you pay her to write something, she will. But I guess in the world of bro-science she is better than renowned nutritional biochemist T. Colin Campbell
, who used to be biased toward meat and milk products as he was the son of a dairy farmer, but reversed his views during his research career, and the top statisticians working on his team for the China Study.
Gary Taubes is a shallow bro-science journalist who is wrong on almost everything when it comes to nutrition. Plant positive did a lot of work debunking Taubes' bad journalism.
Regarding this article you cited:http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-204_162-577832.html
I searched two names quoted in it, the first was Dr. Samuel Klein and found he is the "director,Veronica and Robert C. Atkins Center of Excellence in Obesity Medicine at Barnes-Jewish Hospital and Washington University School of Medicine": http://www.atkinsfoundation.org/2007AR/ ... llence.asp
Another charlatan, Dr. Kevin O'Brien, quoted in your bad article was cited also in 2003 about research that was not publicly available: "None has been published yet, but summaries have been given at medical conferences." Which is followed by this quote by the Kevin O'Brien charlatan: "They all show pretty convincingly that people will lose more weight on an Atkins diet, and their cardiovascular risk factors, if anything, get better". http://www.sptimes.com/2003/02/16/news_ ... if_A.shtml
But in that bad article you cited which you likely didn't feel the need to read since it suited your confirmation bias from 2010, we also learn again that: "None has been published yet, but summaries have been given at medical conferences," and then the same quote by the same Kevin O'Brien, "They all show pretty convincingly that people will lose more weight on an Atkins diet, and their cardiovascular risk factors, if anything, get better"!
So from 2003-2012, that is 13 years, the same quote by the same expert, bolstered the claims of the research they are still too scared to publish, because it will not hold up to scrutiny. This is how desperate you low-carbers are. This clearly PAID public relations by the dangerous Atkins Foundation.
Also you are looking for your seventh diet, it seems the thrive fad will be next. Do healthy people who have an acceptable body mass index keep going through diet hula-hoops?
I would not say that as you seem to be a fundamentalist on nonsense. Carbs are carbs. There are certain foods and certain ways of processing foods that should be avoided, that is all. Yes to baked potatos, no to French fries which are glycated and thus have AGEs(advanced glycation end products). Yes to whole wheat, since it has its fiber intact, no to white flour since it is so finely ground it will shoot up the blood sugar. This carb-phobia from the Atkins, Paleo, etc. crowd helps no one, except those making money off selling bad dietary advice.
Low carb means low carb, stop spouting nonsense and misleading people with your dangerous advice if you have no clue yourself.