This is the most laughs I have had in a long-time. I must thank the meat addicted, low-carbers for this, but I am concerned that all the excess cholesterol has created too much plaque in their brains
and that may explain all their outlandish claims.
I have noticed that they have all have become anecdotal nancies to support their claims. But if one reads between the lines, they can find the truth:
padma norbu wrote:... Until you have tried both kinds of diets yourself for a number of years, you are just parroting what you've heard which appeals to you most. I have personally lived the difference between vegan, vegetarian, low-fat (all for several years) versus a low-carb/high fat vegan, vegetarian and paleo diets for the last 5 years. My findings confirm the science ...
So you listed six diets that you allegedly tried and assert that this means you have "findings" like you made a rigorous peer reviewed study that confirmed the "science"! You are very good at the famous paleo bro-science, I must say, to have studied six different diets. Someone who yo-yos between six diets and is likely overweight after each iteration anyway, is just desperate and searching for the easy route. There is no shorctut: lower calorie density, whole plant foods(Ex: a few olives, not slathers of tablespoons of empty calorie[no nutritional value), high fat olive oil on everything) and integrate exercise into your daily life. Everything is else bs and a fad. You can restrict calories which is what most low-carbers do anyway if they actually ever lose weight:
Atkins Diet Alert wrote:Health Advisory
A review of 107 research studies on various low-carbohydrate, high-protein weight-loss diets concluded that weight loss on these diets is not due to any special effect of restricting carbohydrate; rather, weight loss depended on the extent to which the dieters’ caloric intake fell and how long they continued with their regimens.10 Other reports have also found calorie reduction to be the most important factor in weight loss, with no special weight-loss advantage from the restriction of carbohydrates.11,12
10. Bravata DM, Sanders L, Huang J, et al. Efficacy and safety of low-carbohydrate diets: a systematic review. JAMA 2003;289:1837-1850.
11. Kennedy ET, Bowman SA, Spence JT, Freedman M, King J. Popular diets: correlation to health, nutrition, and obesity. J Am Diet Assoc. 2001;101:411-20.
12. Brehm BJ, Seeley RJ, Daniels SR, D’Alessio DA. A randomized trial comparing a very low carbohydrate diet and a calorie-restricted low fat diet on body weight and cardiovascular risk factors in healthy women. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2003;88:1617-1623.
But no one can maintain eating as much calories as a little kid while being an adult forever, or deal with all the sickness that the dangerous diet which you recommend entails:
Atkins Diet Alert wrote:Health Advisory
Other adverse effects. The following adverse effects were noted in a six-month study of a low-carbohydrate diet, in addition to the effects on cholesterol levels noted above:23
Bad breath 38%
Muscle cramps 35%
General weakness 25%
23. Nestel PJ, Shige H, Pomeroy S, Cehun M, Chin-Dusting J. Post-prandial remnant lipids impair arterial compliance. J Am Coll Cardiol 2001;37:1929-35.
Nemo wrote:Also worth noting that the spare tire pudgy guys had the most stamina in battle endurance tests in the Army. The results were not at all what we wanted so we binned the results. No need to tell the troops that they need more pudge. ... Humans seem to be healthiest with an active lifestyle and some juicy love handles.
More amazing bro-science! Where is this study you likely made up. Can you give a source? Having a spare tire around your waist and a spare tire are sort of oxy-morons(but in this meat addicted society where many people only consume overly processed white bread, ketchup, and unhealthy fried potatoes called french fries as sides or garnishes to meat, almost no amount of exercise will get certain people into a healthy body mass index). Obviously you are hilariously trying to rationalize being overweight and make it seem healthy when it increases the risk for every type of chronic disease and even outdo yourself by adding advocacy for the fad low carb-diets that are well known to be extremely unhealthy. Being overweight increases all cause mortality.
This is perhaps the funniest of them all:
Johnny Dangerous wrote:Yep, lowering carbs is about the first thing any doctor - including the naturopath that is my primary - recommend for metabolic syndrome, high cholesterol, what have you, because it works., and often works very quickly. ... Obviously eating mostly meat is not good for you, in a variety of ways.
Low carb is what will higher cholesterol, since you are pushing out whole plant foods that don't contain cholesterol because of stupid carb phobia and replacing them with animal products that do contain cholesterol. So if eating mostly meat is not good for you, why would you even promote low-carb, when that is what it entails, eating mostly animal products that are low-carb and dangerously high in protein and fat? To further that you don't what you are talking about, every authority rails against low-carb, because it is a public health danger and irresponsible to advocate for:
Atkins exposed wrote:Atkins "Nightmare" Diet
When Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution was first published, the President of the American College of Nutrition said, "Of all the bizarre diets that have been proposed in the last 50 years, this is the most dangerous to the public if followed for any length of time."
When the chief health officer for the State of Maryland, was asked "What's wrong with the Atkins Diet?" He replied "What's wrong with... taking an overdose of sleeping pills? You are placing your body in jeopardy." He continued "Although you can lose weight on these nutritionally unsound diets, you do so at the risk of your health and even your life."
The Chair of Harvard's nutrition department went on record before a 1973 U.S. Senate Select Committee investigating fad diets: "The Atkins Diet is nonsense... Any book that recommends unlimited amounts of meat, butter, and eggs, as this one does, in my opinion is dangerous. The author who makes the suggestion is guilty of malpractice."
The Chair of the American Medical Association's Council on Food and Nutrition testified before the Senate Subcommittee as to why the AMA felt they had to formally publish an official condemnation of the Atkins Diet: "A careful scientific appraisal was carried out by several council and staff members, aided by outside consultants. It became apparent that the [Atkins] diet as recommended poses a serious threat to health."
The warnings from medical authorities continue to this day. "People need to wake up to the reality," former U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop writes, that the Atkins Diet is "unhealthy and can be dangerous."
The world's largest organization of food and nutrition professionals, calls the Atkins Diet "a nightmare of a diet." The official spokesperson of the American Dietetic Association elaborated: "The Atkins Diet and its ilk--any eating regimen that encourages gorging on bacon, cream and butter while shunning apples, all in the name of weight loss--are a dietitian's nightmare." The ADA has been warning Americans about the potential hazards of the Atkins Diet for almost 30 years now. Atkins dismissed such criticism as "dietician talk". "My English sheepdog," Atkins once said, "will figure out nutrition before the dieticians do."
The problem for Atkins (and his sheepdog), though, is that the National Academy of Sciences, the most prestigious scientific body in the United States, agrees with the AMA and the ADA in opposing the Atkins Diet. So does the American Cancer Society; and the American Heart Association; and the Cleveland Clinic; and Johns Hopkins; and the American Kidney Fund; and the American College of Sports Medicine; and the National Institutes of Health. In fact there does not seem to be a single major governmental or nonprofit medical, nutrition, or science-based organization in the world that supports the Atkins Diet. As a 2004 medical journal review concluded, the Atkins Diet "runs counter to all the current evidence-based dietary recommendations."
A 2003 review of Atkins "theories" in the Journal of the American College of Nutrition concluded: "When properly evaluated, the theories and arguments of popular low carbohydrate diet books... rely on poorly controlled, non-peer-reviewed studies, anecdotes and non-science rhetoric.
This review illustrates the complexity of nutrition misinformation perpetrated by some popular press diet books. A closer look at the science behind the claims made for [these books] reveals nothing more than a modern twist on an antique food fad."
I hope you low-carbers find the truth so you can start doing something about your built-up brain plaque and hopefully avoid Alzheimers and the other myriad of downsides of meat addiction and carb phobia(which is a fear of plant foods).