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No Ajahn Chah

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: No Ajahn Chah

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: No Ajahn Chah

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Postby tiltbillings » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:42 am

Also, it would seem that anusaya, underlying tendencies, are sankhāra.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: No Ajahn Chah

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: No Ajahn Chah

Postby Dan74 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:28 am

Could someone clarify what the foregoing discussion elucidates in terms of practice (from the different perspectives of the participants)?

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Re: No Ajahn Chah

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:32 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: No Ajahn Chah

Postby retrofuturist » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:00 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: No Ajahn Chah

Postby Sarva » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:07 am

“Both formerly & now, it is only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress.” — SN 22:86

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Re: No Ajahn Chah

Postby Dan74 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:27 am

Hardly a summary! :D

From my simple-minded perspective I doubt anybody here is out to reify potentialities and posit them as self-existent.

Are potentialities formations? Well is a seed in the ground, a formation? It has not sprouted yet and is not visible but come spring you can be sure the weeds will be out in force. Should we ignore them until they appear? Or should we dig deeper into the ground and rake them up exposing them to the light of insight?

This is my perspective practice-wise - as long as inquiry is present, it shall all be revealed in due course. But dead practice, staying on the surface, abiding in (relative) calm, does not reveal the seeds and lulls the practitioner into a false state of security, until the spring comes, until they are watered.

The Buddha urges up to destroy the seeds, the potentialities, the root. What is this about for you?
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Re: No Ajahn Chah

Postby Sarva » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:31 am

Hi Dan
If you have not already read it, I suggest reading Paradox of Becoming :)

http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writ ... coming.pdf

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“Both formerly & now, it is only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress.” — SN 22:86


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