kirtu wrote:ReasonAndRhyme wrote:KonchokZoepa wrote:you say weapon like its a bad thing. sometimes you need wrath when peaceful deities dont work.
If you use a wrathful mantra out of anger it is nothing other than black magic. The wrathful rituals must never be used by any other motivation than compassion.
This sort of fear is, practically speaking, unfounded. Using Vajrayana as black magic is practically speaking almost impossible. Few people can do this and certainly no (or almost no) Westerners (not using deity yoga at least). The requirements are just far beyond the capabilities of most people.
This is a misunderstanding. What I wrote has nothing to do with fear. The negative intention of using a Mantra out of anger will create a lot of negative karma and produce a lot of confusion inside one's own mind. On a beginner's level it is indeed very unlikely that the performed ritual will actually harm anybody else but the angry practitioner himself. But still the negative intention alone is enough to qualify this action as black magic. Not every act of black magic has to be successful.
kirtu wrote:And anyway, after one fails at that, your'd fall into hell for sure as a result of those aspirations.
Yes, exactly. And that alone should be reason enough to warn people not to engabe in such actions, shouldn't it?