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Anarchy vs Democracy

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Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:29 pm

Which fits better with the buddhist dogma? Personally I think anarchy does. Formless. Thoughtless. Mindless. Democracy is like Catholicism, far too structured, rigid, and long since failed but still propped up by the edifices of the system that created it.
I am a kusala for the cause of Anarchy. I believe the dogma and the dhamma coincide in heavenly form.

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:31 pm

P.S. Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this I just have never seen a good discussion about the dhamma and politics.
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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby mikenz66 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:43 pm

Welcome akusalaofanarchy,

See this discussion:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1571

:anjali:
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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby SDC » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:50 pm



Another good one.

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby Ben » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:01 am

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:38 am

Greetings,

The Buddha was only ever in charge of one society... the Sangha.

It sure as hell wasn't 'anarchy'.

If we want to look at the type of society the Buddha might endorse, we might be well served to investigate the society the Buddha established - the Buddhasasana.

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:49 am

Anarchy is about the removal of the political system. Anarchy is as close to buddhism as we could get as Anarchy has to do with people with common interests working together towards a shared goal wtihout a political system telling them what they should and shouldn't do.
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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:53 am

I am a kusala for the cause of Anarchy. I believe the dogma and the dhamma coincide in heavenly form.

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby David N. Snyder » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:04 am

[in my opinion] Based on the the example of the Dhamma-Discipline, the ideal government would have a strong constitution, which would be the law of the land. A mere vote of the people or legislative branch would not be able to over-turn the provisions of the Constitution. The system could be a benevolent king (monarchy) or a democracy; but most likely democracy would be best, since there are no guarantees a monarch would be benevolent.

"democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch" (quote possibly from Benjamin Franklin) [which is why a strong constitution is necessary]
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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:09 am

Who writes the constitution David? Right now we have a system where the rich write themselves rules to get richer. Would you trust such a populace to write its own constitution?
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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:28 am

So then wouldn't it be better to put the strength of the people in the hands of the people? To each be our own benevolent dictators?
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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby dhamma_newb » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:32 am

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:51 am

Just a little late night trolling. Sorry gents. It was fun while it lasted.
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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:01 am

Akusala indeed... :roll:

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Anarchy vs Democracy

Postby akusalaofanarchy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:06 am

I thought it was a fitting name :P Glad someone caught the reference.
I am a kusala for the cause of Anarchy. I believe the dogma and the dhamma coincide in heavenly form.


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