Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

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Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Pema Rigdzin » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:44 am

Namdrol and/or others knowledgeable about this practice -

I recently received the transmission of a sang practice (from ChNN)... It so happens I purchased some "Riwo Sangchod" incense a while back and when looking at the box noticed it contains musk. Is this a problem? Do sang offerings need to be free of animal products?

Also, can sang be offered any time of day or must it be morning?

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Malcolm » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:46 am





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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Pema Rigdzin » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:54 am

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Grigoris » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:38 am

The musk they are referring to may be plant based (Pelargonium odoratissimum. Geraniaceae) like that used in musk flavoured candy
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It is really easy to grow (I grow it and add it to my sang mix) and smells fantastic when burnt.

Sang offerings need to be free of flesh (butter, milk and yoghurt are allowed and thoroughly reccomended), alcohol and guggul (as it repulses certain classes of beings and they cannot take part in the feast). Actually it is a good idea to have a seperate incense burner just for sang offerings. I brought a copper havan for doing the offerings, they tend to be a good size for individual practice and you can even light small pieces of wood in them.

Any desirable substance may be added. I grind up semi-precious stones and metals as well. When we do sang at the retreat centre, because we have a large permanent structure, we also cut up pieces of five coloured cloth and offer it. I also take the opportunity to burn destroyed Dharma texts and offer them up as well.

For me sang offering is one of my favorite and most enjoyable practices. I admit though that afterwards I always feel quite tired.

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Grigoris » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:26 pm

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby pemachophel » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:51 pm

Tibetan Treasures, the merchandizing vehicle of Chagdud Gompa, has a sang mixture made by the late Chagdud Rinpoche that contains all sorts of grains, herbs and medicines, gems, metals, and other precious substances. This can be added to any other offerings. When I'm in the Tibetan Buddhist parts of Asia, I like to buy similar little bags of sang mixture. These are commonly sold in Bhutan, Sikkim, Nepal, etc. I have a large plastic jug at home in which I mix these along with tsampa and other flours, the three sweets, and the three whites. Helps act as a support for my visualization. This is sympathetic magic after all.
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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Adamantine » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:54 am

There's also this good product with all the mother-sang seed substances from the precious collection of HH Dudjom Rinpoche:

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby ngodrup » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:40 pm

Who can check Chogyur Linpga's recipe for magnetizing incense for musk?

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Malcolm » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:43 pm





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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby WeiHan » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:18 pm

Hi,

I am wondering if the Shechen red box incense can be used for doing Riwo Sangcho practices? It is suppose to be similar in formula with the famous Mindroling incense which is extremely expensive but the Shechen incense is much cheaper and good value for the money.

Another related question is whether Riwo Sangcho incense can be used for Sur offering practices? I am guesing the answer is no since it doesn't contain any food product in it but I feel I need a confirmation answer.

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Adamantine » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:42 pm

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby pemachophel » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:09 pm

I love to do sang. There are many different versions of sang. Riwo Sang-chod is pretty "generic," with offerings to all four types of recipients. Some other sang liturgies are more specific. For instance, there is a class of sang called nol-sang which is meant to specifically purify different kinds of drib/obscurations/defilements. There are also sang liturgies specifically to the Wealth Dieities, the Dra-lha, the Nagas, etc. (Of course, you only do Naga sang on appropriate Naga days.) And then there are different sang liturgies where one visualizes onself as different Dieties, for instance Guru Rinpoche (Riwo Sang-chod), Khasarpani Avalkotihesvara (Adzom Drukpa's sang), Troma Nagmo (Dudjom), etc. As for ingredients, the more different ingredients, the better, at least when you're making a nice-sized fire. Various types of birdseed mixes are good since they contain so many different types of grains, seeds, nuts, and fruits. Similar for various mixed bean and grain soup mixes. Little bits of all types of healing herbs. Pieces of cloth of the five colors. Khata. There are also small paper mandalas for burning with the sang to help empower it. Flowers of all types. (I did have to chuckle when someone earlier this summer brought glazed donuts for the sang.)

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Re: Riwo Sangchod - ingredients question

Postby Grigoris » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:18 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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