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Porn Free for 90 Days

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby dhamma_newb » Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:55 pm

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:15 pm

That was one very shallow talk.

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby dhamma_newb » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:17 pm

The watched mind brings happiness.
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I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Ferox » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:46 pm

I think the issue here is having to make a "vow" to do it.... making vows leads to failure and then feeling bad for yourself when you cannot meet the vows as the change has not come across naturally through practice.

I posted in another thread about how I came to the point a few months back that I called " spontaneous celibacy".. where I noticed a huge portion of my craving and passion for anything sexual just sort of.. went away. Now I'm not claiming they are gone at the root, far from it.. but I can now see more clearly that any kind of sexual activity can be observed like any other object of meditation and you can start to see there being little to no point to it, and how it is harmful to practice and to my goals of seeing things as they truly are.

I am in the prime of my life, I weight a lot less and look a lot better then I ever have, women pay much more attention to me then they ever have.. and I have little desire to date and i can see that more of my interactions with women are less and less based from a motive of wanting to "be" with them. When the "cloud" starts to part and you see things more clearly, even in moments of ecstasy.. you start see the truth of things.

so anyways, like I tell people, don't worry about needing to make vows to stop this or that.. just practice and it will come.
-just one more being treading the ancient path of Dhamma-

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby dhamma_newb » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:01 pm

Thanks Ferox for sharing. I just listened to a Dhamma talk by Joseph Goldstein and he mentioned being able to distinguish between aspirations and expectations in practice. I think this piece of advice is a very helpful reminder.
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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby dhamma_newb » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:40 pm

The watched mind brings happiness.
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I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

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The watched mind brings happiness.
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I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Monkey Mind » Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:59 am

"Shame" won't be released in the USA until April 17. I have added it to my list of must-sees.
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as others are, so am I."
Having thus identified self and others,
harm no one nor have them harmed.

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Ben » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:15 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Ben » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:33 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby dhamma_newb » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:58 am

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Ben » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:09 am

Hi Don,
I appreciate your frustration with my response. However, having witnessed the various discussions on masturbation - one of which is nearly 100 pages in extent, canvassing widely for your opinions may lead to greater confusion rather than clarity.
If I have time later tonight I will reply with a more substantial reply to my earlier one.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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e: [email protected]..

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby dhamma_newb » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:16 am

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Ben » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:44 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

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Re: Porn Free for 90 Days

Postby Mr Man » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:48 pm

I think that there is some interesting food for contemplation in this talk by Krishnamurti .
:anjali:

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