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Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

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Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:10 pm

The predictions made in the 1972 book The Limits of Growth seem to be borne out by recent history. It would appear that we are facing a global economic collapse and population deflation (which sounds much more tame then the reality will be) which will be upon us in less than 20 years. Don't let despair prevail; organize and work for a sustainable future for ourselves and our children! I have started a FB page and buying ads to spread the word. Any help getting out the message would be appreciated but even more than that I would be forever in your debt if you would contact your local politicians and businesses to let them know we need to work to change course today! Mettaya!

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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby Ben » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:21 pm

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No doubt difficult times are occurring now and potentially more difficult days are coming.
But we still have the capacity to make a positive difference if we act now.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:35 pm

Thanks Ben! Don't let despair prevail! Sukhitaa hontu!
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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby Ben » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:57 pm

Its interesting, KB.
In one of the programs we do at our outdoor education/sustainability campus is an evening where the students get to learn about how much people from around the world spend on food for a week. There are about 20-30 slides of families photographed with the entire week's food laid out with a caption that reads what the total cost is (US$) and sometimes what the favourite meal is for the family. The photos are taken in either the main living room of the home or kitchen. It contrasts families from the wealthy west that spend up to $350 per week on food to a family living in what looks like a refugee camp in Chad who spend approx $3 per week on a few small bags of grains and pulses. There are some interesting observations that are made with regards to the family composition, relative wealth, the amount of processed food, snack food and pet food.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=what ... 80&bih=666

The evening then progresses to the 'poverty dinner' where students are divided into three groups, the numbers in each group representing (broadly) the amount of people in three income groups. Low income being the most populous and high income being the least. The students in the low income group then sit outside and are given a potato for their dinner. The middle income group get a potato, sour cream, and some soup - but not enough soup for everyone. The students in the middle income group get to sit off the floor. The four or five students in the high income group sit at a table, and are waited on and get served a three course meal. All the students can see each other. Its a great learning exercise and it helps to open the eyes of some very sheltered rich kids of some of the disparities in the world.
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Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby Khalil Bodhi » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:02 pm

Thank you for that Ben! Any links to the program would be appreciated. Sadhu! :heart:
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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby rowboat » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:30 pm

Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby Kim OHara » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:18 am

Hi, KB,
I just visited your FB page and it doesn't seem to have been updated for a while. Are you planning to get back to it?

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Re: Looking Back on the Limits of Growth

Postby Moggalana » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:54 am

I'm usually pretty pessimistic about the future of the earth but there are people who disagree and their arguments are not bad either:
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/bett ... -you-think
Let it come. Let it be. Let it go.



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