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Shinnyo-En

Postby plwk » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:16 pm

Link: http://www.shinnyoen.org/

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Any comments on them from my learned brethren here?

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Re: Shinnyo-En

Postby Individual » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:36 am

plwk wrote:Link: http://www.shinnyoen.org/

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Any comments on them from my learned brethren here?

Seems like a cult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinnyo-en

Shinnyo-en practices a form of meditation called "sesshin" training. Sesshin (the word is composed of the two Chinese characters, “touch” and “heart”[4]) is meditation with the addition of guidance or insights given to trainees by specially trained “spiritual guides” (Jpn. reinosha).

Can't meditate without a Shinnyo priest. Which isn't free, no doubt.

The founder, Shinjo Ito, was a Shingon Buddhist. Why didn't he stay with Shingon instead of forming a new religion? :reading: Why did his wife have any part in forming this new religion? Was she a Buddhist monk or anything of any kind that would make her of any authority to form a whole new religion while calling it a form of Buddhism?

And before he died, why did he appoint his daughter as his successor?

It is better for the waters of compassion to be the tears one sheds for others and for the "fire of wisdom," to be the right mindfulness, effort, and concentration one develops in one's daily life. :)

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Re: Shinnyo-En

Postby kirtu » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:19 pm

plwk wrote:Link: http://www.shinnyoen.org/

Any comments ...


Fire ceremony is done by all the Vajrayana schools. It's taken directly from Indian Buddhism (which leaves open a bit whether it is just an esoteric Buddhist method).

Kirt
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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: Shinnyo-En

Postby Individual » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:37 pm

kirtu wrote:
plwk wrote:Link: http://www.shinnyoen.org/

Any comments ...


Fire ceremony is done by all the Vajrayana schools. It's taken directly from Indian Buddhism (which leaves open a bit whether it is just an esoteric Buddhist method).

Kirt

To be clear: "Indian Buddhism," but not pre-sectarian Buddhism.

I don't think the Theravadins or Pali suttas record any history of practicing fire offerings.

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Re: Shinnyo-En

Postby kirtu » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:27 pm

Individual wrote:
kirtu wrote:
plwk wrote:Link: http://www.shinnyoen.org/

Any comments ...


Fire ceremony is done by all the Vajrayana schools. It's taken directly from Indian Buddhism (which leaves open a bit whether it is just an esoteric Buddhist method).

Kirt

To be clear: "Indian Buddhism," but not pre-sectarian Buddhism.

I don't think the Theravadins or Pali suttas record any history of practicing fire offerings.


I haven't ever heard of the Theravadins doing a fire ceremony but I would not assert it's exclusion in the Pali. It might be there in some form.

Kirt
Kirt's Tibetan Translation Notes

"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche


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