gregkavarnos wrote:Some of the worst marial arts injuries I have ever seen (and experienced) are from Aikido, and that's coming from a Muay Thai instructor!
Qing Tian (晴天) wrote:In this regard I personally believe that practicing martial arts can be very beneficial. As a long time practitioner myself I can say that it has helped to deepen my concentration, find the peaceful centre of my existence, and deal with others equitably and without resort to anger. Closing in on 50 years of age I feel physically healthy, mentally acute, and (dare I say it) spiritually uncompromised.
The best piece of advice I was ever given: Intention is everything.
I think Aikido is the most apt form of fighting, if one must. It is focused on exerting the least amount of energy, to the extent that one is able to use the assailant's negative energy against them with minimal effort. It is like you can, embody the principle that one who seeks to hurt others may hurt him/herself most of all.
Johnny Dangerous wrote:I think for some people (i'd count myself as one) that have a strong inclination towards violence, and often people whose neuroses might be partially tied up with violent experiences, martial arts can serve a somewhat transformative role, and can eventually lead to the reigning in and mastery of one's violent impulses. In fact I know this is so, because I have both experienced it and seen it.
...As I said earlier though, they can also mess people up too..i've seen training bring out the worst and best in folks..so it ain't something to mess around with in terms of caring for one's mind.
Johnny Dangerous wrote:It sounded like the usual "AIkido is a peaceful martial art" stuff that i've heard from many AIkidoka in my 25 or so years of martial arts.
It's nonsensical, as Aikido has some of the most injurious techniques you can imagine, and is derived in part from battlefield Jujutsu...no matter how flamboyant or non harming it may look in demonstrations.
Moreihei Ueshiba was an interesting fellow in terms in terms of his spirituality, and that had a huge effect on how he formulated and taught Aikido, and presumably why. The art itself though, is modified Jujutsu and is designed to do things like spiral break forearms and dislocate shoulders..hardly "peaceful" stuff.
I imagine Qing Tian is also familiar with this tired argument (it's a really common one from martial arts new people that think there is some "peaceful" method of dealing with someone who is trying to bodily end you). The fact is though, as far as violence goes, you can run and escape (by FAR the preferable option 99.9999999999999999% of the time), or you can endeavor to put someone down, if you decide on the latter there is no real "peaceful" way to do it..they all involve something nasty.
So to do martial arts in a Buddhist context, I think it's a bigger deal to figure out what you are and are not willing to do in terms of violence against sentient beings..and why, and also to decided what are the goals of your martial arts training then it is to figure out which style is "peaceful", because none of them really are on a physical level.
The exception to this is environments where one has to have a set of skills for subduing semi-compliant people, things like being a bouncer, law enforcement officer, or someone that works with violent mentally disturbed folks..but that is a different deal than interpersonal violence of the various kind that most martial arts sprang from, and is a specialized skill set.
Were you learning traditional Muay Thai (ie as a martial art) or Muay Thai as a combat sport? Lots of people pretend they are teaching Muay Thai ,when in fact they are just teaching Kick Boxing with a couple of knees thrown in (K1/Oriental rules) and selling it as Muay Thai.Luke wrote:As for me, I found that practicing Muay Thai and Krav Maga was making my mindset more angry and violent, so I stopped doing them. But other people might not be so negatively affected by these martial arts.
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