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"Now, Kalamas, one who is a disciple of the noble ones — his mind thus free from hostility, free from ill will, undefiled, & pure — acquires four assurances in the here-&-now:

"'If there is a world after death, if there is the fruit of actions rightly & wrongly done, then this is the basis by which, with the break-up of the body, after death, I will reappear in a good destination, the heavenly world.' This is the first assurance he acquires.

"'But if there is no world after death, if there is no fruit of actions rightly & wrongly done, then here in the present life I look after myself with ease — free from hostility, free from ill will, free from trouble.' This is the second assurance he acquires.

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In my experience, teachers from two different traditions (Vajrayana and Theravada) have said offline that its not necessary to believe in rebirth and literal 'other realms' in order to progress with one's practice of the Dhamma.

I'm not sure what any of this intense debating to and fro and speculation about other lives actually achieves in terms of the present life and practice in the here and now.

The Buddha said "The Dhamma is visible here and now" (AN 6.47)

My own position remains neutral - and my practice has been going just fine, whatever the opinions of others on the internet might be one way or the other.

with metta ,

Aloka :)
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