Trinle wrote:Does anybody know about meditating on Guru Rinpoche within karma kagyu? I mean what text or terma is ussually for using in karma kagyu?
And then some!!! Guru Rinpoche prayers are very common in the Karma Kagyu. The Barchey Lamsel and Dusum Sangye by Chokgyur Lingpa are two that come to mind.udawa wrote:Trinle wrote:Does anybody know about meditating on Guru Rinpoche within karma kagyu? I mean what text or terma is ussually for using in karma kagyu?
Jatson Nyingpo's Konchog Chidu (dkon mchog spyi 'dus).
Stewart wrote:There's not much around translated....basically there are 3 main cycles....Dorje Drollo, which contains several other Sadhanas.....Shitro Padmavajra and Tsedrub Tabshey Khajor.
michaelb wrote:I don't think you would call them 'Karma Kagyu' as such, but they are all examples of practices focusing "on Guru Rinpoche within karma kagyu... text or terma is ussually for using in karma kagyu " As the OP asked.
Of course Yonge Mingyur Dorje's Drollo cycle was given to the 10th Karmapa Choying Dorje specifically to remove obstacles for the Karma Kagyu but there are various reasons why these particular termas are favoured by the lineage.
Also, there may be lamas and others who consider themselves to be Karma Kagyupas who practice other Guru Rinpoche terma practices, like Rigdzin Dupa, but the ones listed are more common, especially for Karma Kamtsang retreats and monasteries.
Adamantine wrote:But Konchog Chidu for instance is also practiced within the Nyingma, it is not exclusive to Karma Kagyupas. . . Perhaps Mingyur Dorje's terma is more specific but I am close with Nyingma Lamas who specialize in Konchog Chidu, having done significant long retreats on it. So I would say it is practiced by Karma Kagyupas, but it is not a Karma Kagyu practice perse
Karma Jinpa wrote:Let us not forget the Seven Line Prayer to Guru Rinpoche. HH the 17th Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley Dorje, answered students about how they could help benefit his activities by instructing them to accumulate that specific prayer.
The Karmapa has a strong association with Guru Rinpoche, hence the Karmapa's encouragement of the Billion Vajra Guru mantra accumulation in years past. Maybe it has something to do with the vision Yongey Mingyur Dorje had of the 2nd Karmapa? Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche was giving an empowerment on Karma Pakshi recently, during which he said that the Karmapa is none other than Guru Rinpoche, and that they are inseparable.
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