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Meditation, 5 hindrances, and the misconception

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
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Re: Meditation, 5 hindrances, and the misconception

Postby marc108 » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:57 pm

If we had to abandon the hindrances BEFORE we began to meditate we would all be truly up a creek without a paddle lol :jumping:
"It's easy for us to connect with what's wrong with us... and not so easy to feel into, or to allow us, to connect with what's right and what's good in us."

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Re: Meditation, 5 hindrances, and the misconception

Postby Brizzy » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:05 am

I have argued in the past that 'abandoning the hindrances' IS the practice. Satipatthana is approached by abandoning the hindrances and culminates in jhana. If I have a good day (an extremely good day!) I might begin a sit without to much trouble from the hindrances, but even then the process is still to keep abandoning the hindrances. 'Sitting' is the main approach with which we can abandon these hindrances - insisting we shouldn't meditate before they are abandoned seems non-sense - abandoning them (letting go) is what meditating is all about.

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Ignorance is an intentional act.

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Ignorance is an intentional act.

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Re: Meditation, 5 hindrances, and the misconception

Postby danieLion » Sun May 27, 2012 2:59 am

ignobleone,
Sorry for being such a jerk (above).

What I was trying to say was I don't believe you abandon the hindrances to get into jhana but note their absence as one of your "checks" on whether or not you're in jhana.
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