Yes you are correct about the text i was reading Mikenz66.
@reflection: Yes you are on the right track. Of course i know that anything is possible. And i know that it is possible to follow this practice without being ordained. But as far as "renouncing all worldly pleasures" goes.
My point was that it seems, according to the teachings, that to attain or to approach the highest state of being on MUST "renounce"
And so if
that is the case isn't it necessary and not just an option.
It seems that there is an idea of the "Lay Buddhist" and it doesnt seem to match the intensity of the teachings. It is a commentary more than a question. I was just trying to put it out there to see if anyone had an insight about how i am looking at in the wrong way.
If it still doesnt make sense that is ok. I cant seem to verbalize it better.