oushi wrote:For you it certainly is...
I don't recommend weed to anyone that says that he "used to (grow and) smoke, drink lots (hell, my family owned an ouzo distillery), pop any pill that crossed my path, trip, snort, you name it.". Stay away from anything that alters your consciousness!
Sorry, but you do not look like a trustworthy person in this area.
That is where you are 100% wrong. You see, if i did not have a tonne of personal experience with intoxicants, then that would make mean my "preaching" comes from a position of ignorance on the topic and my opinion would be worthless. Unfortunately for you though, I know when I can see deluded justifications, I know because I have been there and done that.
You see, apart from my personal experience with intoxicants, I also have post graduate qualifications in drug and alcohol dependency (I am a registered psychologist). I have used my personal experience to help people overcome their dependencies. When they have wanted to overcome their dependencies. You can lead a horse to water...
So your attempt to nullify the veracity of my opinion has come to naught.
I actually never got to the point where I needed to be hospitalised/institutionalised for my drug and alcohol use, I was actually always a recreational user. Addiction was never a problem with me. Only with cigarettes, nasty little blighters, they were the hardest to deal with. I got to the point where I was smoking two packets a day and yet managed to get to the point where I could smoke two cigarettes a day. No more than two. Once you get to that point, with any intoxicant, you realise that you may as well stop completely. That was because I always saw the danger of excessive indulgence, since many of my friends were institutionalsised, and because I have always had a decent awareness of my body.
Even with marijuana, I managed to have a stash and yet only smoke when I wanted to. Not out of habit, not out of boredom, not because I believed it increased my meditative capacities, just because I felt like it. So feel free to give me your stash to look after, you can be 100% sure I wouldn't waste any of my time smoking it. It will be 100% safe with me.
Now back to your deluded justifications...
All I can see here are few people, that were very irresponsible in approaching difficult topics, and now are trying to look wise.
All I can see is a person that thinks they are acting responsibly trying to pass off their delusion as wisdom (and trying to con others in the process as well). You want to delude yourself? Fine. But trying to pull others into your delusion is not cool. Not in the slightest.
Show me one place where Buddha refers to weed.
He doesn't refer to weed specifically, he refers to intoxicants in general. Marijuana is an intoxicant.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
"Furthermore, abandoning the use of intoxicants, the disciple of the noble ones abstains from taking intoxicants. In doing so, he gives freedom from danger, freedom from animosity, freedom from oppression to limitless numbers of beings. In giving freedom from danger, freedom from animosity, freedom from oppression to limitless numbers of beings, he gains a share in limitless freedom from danger, freedom from animosity, and freedom from oppression. This is the fifth gift, the fifth great gift — original, long-standing, traditional, ancient, unadulterated, unadulterated from the beginning — that is not open to suspicion, will never be open to suspicion, and is unfaulted by knowledgeable contemplatives & brahmans. And this is the eighth reward of merit, reward of skillfulness, nourishment of happiness, celestial, resulting in happiness, leading to heaven, leading to what is desirable, pleasurable, & appealing; to welfare & to happiness.
See also the Sikkha Utta, Sigalovada Sutta, Uposatha Sutta, etc...