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The Dalai Lama's Solution to Overpopulation

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Re: The Dalai Lama's Solution to Overpopulation

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Postby tiltbillings » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:05 am

Kevin, I see you deleted your Irish Catholic msg. It is how, as my Irish Gan would say, I was bread and buttered. Shameful feelings around sex are not that unusual. The question is as one grows up, what do you do with them.

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Postby contemplans » Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:32 pm

If overpopulation is such a terrible thing, then we have to have a good solution to solve it. Never do evil that good may come of it. The Dalai Lama presented something that would be very good if it organically grew in society, i.e., people voluntarily taking up the celibate life. The Dalai lama snickered, but I bet you dollars to donuts that if you researched it, that is his view. This has always been my solution to maintaining stability in population growth. It makes sense, and it is beneficial to society. Tibet at one time, I think, had 25% of its mature population in vowed celibate life. I think that was the figure. Either way, it was a very large number. Obviously this would allow people who want to be married and have children to have as many as they like, so the question of birth control becomes a non-issue. This is if overpopulation was even a problem. Social security isn't funded because millions of future workers were aborted and contracepted out of existence. Those are signs of dying civilizations. The birth pangs we fill now in the world are the scrambles for the resources that we can import into our atrophying societies.

As for the question of birth control in itself, I think most of these people are not concerned about the plight on the world, but their own selfish wants. How many people practice contraception for any other reason than avoiding pregnancy? It is a behavior that doesn't want to deal with the full consequences of an act, which in my mind is highly unskillful. I think this denial of the reality of sex, and its primary purpose which is reproduction of ourselves, is part and parcel also of a hedonistic society. A race to the bottom.

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"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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All the world is on fire, All the world is burning, All the world is ablaze, All the world is quaking. That which does not quake or blaze, That to which worldlings do not resort, Where there is no place for Mara:That is where my mind delights. (SN 5.7)

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"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332

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Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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All the world is on fire, All the world is burning, All the world is ablaze, All the world is quaking. That which does not quake or blaze, That to which worldlings do not resort, Where there is no place for Mara:That is where my mind delights. (SN 5.7)

By degrees, little by little,
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the wise purify themselves,
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Postby Prasadachitta » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:00 pm

I know this is off topic....

Priests molesting children is not as much of a problem as the institution knowingly transferring and protecting those priests so that they end up doing it again and again.


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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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