The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:17 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby Cittasanto » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:29 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby twelph » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:20 am

The circle is almost complete.

Humanism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism
Secular Humanism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism
Buddhism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
Humanistic Buddhism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanistic_Buddhism
Secular Buddhism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Buddhism

Let it be known here and now that I am starting Secular Humanistic Buddhism. Wikipedia page forthcoming :)

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:54 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:03 am

Greetings Geoff,

Do you care to elaborate?

I'm a bit unclear on the point you're trying to make...

Metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:23 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:42 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

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Re: The Secular Buddhist

Postby retrofuturist » Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:52 am

Greetings,

Related to that is the following...

The Threefold Refuge - Nyanaponika Thera
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... el076.html

Especially the second half which talks about differing degree of refuge, all the way through to total self-surrender.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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