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Goenka retreat- aversion towards Chanting

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Re: Goenka retreat- aversion towards Chanting

Postby mikenz66 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:39 pm

I'd echo several of the above posts by saying that a Goenka retreat is no more (or, necessarily, less) a marathon than a retreat of a week or more in the style of other Theravada teachers (such as Mahasi Sayadaw/U Pandita, Pa Auk Sayadaw, etc, etc). To me the Goenka retreat I sat a few years ago was quite standard Theravada. Goenka has his particular interpretation of the Suttas (as do all teachers), teaches a particular style of meditation (as do all teachers), and has a particular chanting style. Some could quibble with some technical details of interpretation (as they probably could with all teachers), but as I recall, the Dhamma talks were rather standard 4NT, 8FoldPath, etc.

Hmm, that sentence got rather complex. The point is that in my view the differences between Goenka and other Dhamma teachers is no wider than the general differences between Theravada teachers.

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All the world is on fire, All the world is burning, All the world is ablaze, All the world is quaking. That which does not quake or blaze, That to which worldlings do not resort, Where there is no place for Mara:That is where my mind delights. (SN 5.7)

By degrees, little by little,
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Re: Goenka retreat- aversion towards Chanting

Postby vidar » Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:37 pm

All the world is on fire, All the world is burning, All the world is ablaze, All the world is quaking. That which does not quake or blaze, That to which worldlings do not resort, Where there is no place for Mara:That is where my mind delights. (SN 5.7)

By degrees, little by little,
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the wise purify themselves,
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Postby Ben » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:09 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Goenka retreat- aversion towards Chanting

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Ignorance is an intentional act.

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Ignorance is an intentional act.

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Several post dealing with the efficacy of chanting have been moved here:

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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Goenka retreat- aversion towards Chanting

Postby vidar » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:19 am

All the world is on fire, All the world is burning, All the world is ablaze, All the world is quaking. That which does not quake or blaze, That to which worldlings do not resort, Where there is no place for Mara:That is where my mind delights. (SN 5.7)

By degrees, little by little,
from moment to moment,
the wise purify themselves,
as a smith purifies silver.
—Dhammapada 239

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Re: Goenka retreat- aversion towards Chanting

Postby Cittasanto » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:05 am

just to interject, hopefully for everyones benefit, there is a difference between being mistaken and being untruthful (as I believe the initial comment said) being mistaken is not a deliberate thing, it can be based on facts which maybe misinterpreted or misinformation due to some reason, being untruthful is deliberately misleading, or distorting the facts.

it certainly isn't a case of if someone says so.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Goenka retreat- aversion towards Chanting

Postby David2 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:35 pm

Hint:
Everybody who is interested in Goenkajis chanting should consider getting a copy of this book:

The Gem Set in Gold
http://www.pariyatti.org/Bookstore/prod ... sku=771501


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