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Steven Seagal Rinpoche makes ads for Russian arms company

Postby Knotty Veneer » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:06 pm

From the UK Guardian:



It seems his enlightened activity knows no bounds.
“Trump’s grand and vulgar self-absorption is inviting all of us to examine our own selfishness. His ignorance calls us to attend to our own blind spots. The fears that he stokes and the isolation he promotes goad us to be braver, more generous.” - James S. Gordon.

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Postby Grigoris » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:35 pm

What a jerk!
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Postby Johnny Dangerous » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:47 pm

Don't know if anyone was ever a fan of Mr. Show, Bob Odenkirk, or David Cross...

But I once got to watch Bob and David do a kind of Mystery Science Theater 3000 thing with Steve Seagal's On Deadly Ground - which is directed by him...a big part of their humor was true stories about Steven Seagal from when they worked with him on Saturday Live, and maybe some other places, they even had a handout of sorts about it. I guess that sort of thing could be viewed as unhealthy in a Buddhist context, but whatever the case it was hilarious.

Whatever else I feel about the guy, On Deadly Ground is truly a contribution to the tradition of American B-Movie cinema, even though I don't think that was intentional.
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Postby mandala » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:25 pm

Sweet creamy Jesus!

What i really want to know is, what's with the spray-on hair?

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Postby seeker242 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:40 am

Is a tulku, by definition, an enlightened being?
One should not kill any living being, nor cause it to be killed, nor should one incite any other to kill. Do never injure any being, whether strong or weak, in this entire universe!

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Postby Knotty Veneer » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:11 am

“Trump’s grand and vulgar self-absorption is inviting all of us to examine our own selfishness. His ignorance calls us to attend to our own blind spots. The fears that he stokes and the isolation he promotes goad us to be braver, more generous.” - James S. Gordon.

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Postby Azidonis » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:53 pm

First Dennis Rodman, now Steven Seagal.

It's all about the money and attention.

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"My religion is not deceiving myself."
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Postby tingdzin » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:05 pm

It has long been noted on Buddhist blogs numerous times that being recognized as as a tulku does not automatically imply some sprt of superior wisdom and ability. In the case of Mr. Seagal, Penor Rinpoche reportedly said specifically that to actualize the functioning of a tulkuhood, a long training is required, which Mr. Seagal had not gone through. Thirty years ago, H.H. the Dalai Lama warned that while looking for a teacher, the title of "tulku" should not be the determining factor; in fact, he implied that the title of "geshe", while not as charismatic, at least indicated some concrete credentials (I don't have the name of the source handy, but it's in one of the earliest English books on tulkus, and could be tracked down if someone was interested).

Historically, as commentators such as Guenther and Geoffrey Samuel have pointed out, the institution of tulku recognition ensured that religious establishments could take a child who was of low social status but who exhibited special qualities, and undertake his education. However, there has also long been recognition of tulkus for political or financial reasons as well. More recently, the obsession of Westerners with outer qualifications rather than inner attainment (see Trungpa on spiritual materialism) has meant that all titles (lama, tulku, "emanation") have been further cheapened. I know of one student (no, I will not name names) who pestered his teacher for years to be recognized as a tulku, and then, when his teacher acquiesced shortly before passing on, wrote a letter to the lama's fellow students, expressing beautifully assumed surprise and modesty.

In short, as the Tibetans say, since we don't know who is a Buddha and who is a thief, we should respect everybody, but keep our hands on our wallets.

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"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Postby seeker242 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:41 pm

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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Re: Steven Seagal Rinpoche makes ads for Russian arms compan

Postby Ramon1920 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:43 pm

Being a tulku doesn't mean anything.
No matter what tradition, bad tulkus abound.

Steven Seagal is just some person that was in some movies a long time ago.

If he thinks he can strengthen ties between Russia and USA/Israel when they're waging a proxy war in Syria over pipelines he's crazy. Israel and the USA will lose a lot if oil comes through Syria and Russia will gain it.


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