bit of confusion - 5 colors

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bit of confusion - 5 colors

Postby Johnny Dangerous » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:50 pm

Got a practice for five colors/5 dhyani Buddhas..it seems like some places the colors for Vairocana/Buddha family and Akshobya/Vajra family are reversed from my notes.

Is there some variance or did I just write stuff down wrong? I think I have seen them reversed also different places on the web.
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Re: bit of confusion - 5 colors

Postby michaelb » Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:44 pm

I think, as tantra developed and the Vajra family became more important, Akshobya or other vajra family heruka went to the centre of the mandala and became white. I'm sure this is how Snellgrove explained it, anyway. I think he also says Vajrayana only became a term for secret mantra once the vajra family became dominant. Vairochana is only really dominant in the lower tantras, if I remember rightly.

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Postby heart » Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:49 am

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Re: bit of confusion - 5 colors

Postby Malcolm » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:54 pm

"Vairocana is not just the color blue, Vajrasattva is not just the color white in that sequence, but Vairocana arises with all five colors; blue, white, red, yellow, and green."

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Postby heart » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:25 pm

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Re: bit of confusion - 5 colors

Postby Johnny Dangerous » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:56 pm

Well, thanks all, I know how to do the practice as I received it now, which I guess is the important thing. Interesting to know some possible historical reasons behind the switch too though.
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