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Newbie questions about samadhi

The cultivation of calm or tranquility and the development of concentration
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Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby faraway » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:32 am

1. If one want to practice successful samadhi, does he/she really need to be in quiet environment? Can one succeed doing samadhi in noisy environment?

2. If part of my body feel itchy/pain or there is mosquito keep torturing me or my throat got phlegm, etc, what should I do? Should I give up the samadhi for the moment and take care of the body problem or just endure them during the samadhi?

3. How to do samadhi with walking posture? What object I need to concentrate? Can I use breath for the object?


Thanks before,

:anjali:

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby chownah » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:36 pm

For walking meditation it depends on what you are wanting to accomplish and your level of experience.
If you are just using walking meditation as a way to extend your sitting practice to walking because you can't sit long enough then I suggest using the same object that you use when sitting if you are steady enough in your concentration to do that....if not yet steady enough then I suggest the breath if you are steady enough to do that....if not yet steady enough to do that then I suggest using the sensations in the feet and probably the change of pressure at the bottom of the feet is the easiest object to follow when walking.
If you are using walking meditation to develop concentration, mindfulness, and insight while walking then I suggest develop a relaxed Thai Chi Chuan style (I recommend the Yang style done slowly) of walking and the method of developing concentration initially is to focus on learning all of the movements with reduced stress throughout the various parts of the body and as you advance to continue to sense the more subtle stresses and to refine the movements to reduce them still....keep at it for a couple years or more and it is possible that you will be able to walk and perform normal life tasks and be sensitive to the entire body and that you will realize that the body can be fully animated without the need for a self to guide it.....I guess.....
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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby Ben » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:13 pm

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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby bodom » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:50 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby faraway » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:11 pm

Thanks friends for the answers :anjali:

Friends, when sitting/standing inside the bus which is on the way, is it possible to do a meditation there? If so, what kind of meditation is the best?

Btw, could earplug be helpful in samadhi? which for restraining ear faculty :tongue:

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby chownah » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:48 pm

You wouldn't want to miss your stop so I doubt that meditation on neither perception nor non-perception would be advised!!!
Different people have different needs and different abilities....ultimately you will need to find out what is best for you......try different things on the bus.....even the bad ones will provide some benefit even if it is only that they don't work and my guess is that even the bad ones have potential to provide more than that.....My view is that the benefits of meditative techniques applied to daily living are much greater than most people realize.....It is my view that the benefits from this daily life meditative development do not become apparent until one has diligently applied them for years....but to get to the point where the benefits are felt you must first start and continue for some time with very little reward or perhaps only sporadic reward.....but on the other hand many people report getting to heightened awareness throughout daily life by mostly just sitting while meditating....and usually that takes a number of years too........I recommend doing both as often and as long as you can every day....it's all good.....I think.....
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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby manas » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:15 am

Hi faraway,

maybe while on the bus, you could use that opportunity to develop other aspects of awareness. Sometimes, when I am in that situation, I just observe my mind, as in where is it at? Keeping your eyes open and senses alert (that way you won't miss your stop), just observe whatever enters and leaves your consciousness; the movement of the bus, people entering and leaving, your inner reactions to the people around you, the passing scenery...and, of course, the breath if you like, but really when on the bus it's better to practise a form of awareness that keeps you alert to what the current task is. The one thing I watch out for is daydreaming. If we just get bored and daydream, then we really are wasting time. But if we somehow remain alert, even just to our state of mind or the passing thoughts in the mind, then we have cultivated awareness, even if just a little it all adds up over time. You could even daydream mindfully, where you observe yourself drifting from thought to thought. It's all good - so long as you reaming awake and alert!

all just my personal opinion and based on experience. not gospel.

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby bodom » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:08 am

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby faraway » Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:04 pm


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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby bodom » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:15 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby bodom » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:01 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Newbie questions about samadhi

Postby chownah » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:36 am

One type of meditation I do on bus trips sometimes is to stand up with head erect, eyes straight forward, chest relaxed, breathing from the abdomen, knees slightly bend, with a moderately wide stance (feet NOT right next to each other, one foot a little ahead and to the side of the other....you want a good solid base footing for this)....and then let the legs act like shock absorbers so that when the bus goes over a bump your upper body barely moves and all the bumpiness is absorbed in the feet and legs...if you get good at this you can stand up without holding on to anything and stay solid as a rock even in a very bumpy ride!!!......it's fun!!!.....and it develops concentraton and body awareness.....once you get the feel for it you can even extend that concentrated awareness beyond the feet and legs...in fact to be able to stand without holding on requires pretty much concentraed awareness of the entire body and even of the visual field so that you can see when the bus is going to turn so you will know how to respond without holding on!!......I remember one ride through the mountains of northern Laos on a poorly maintained dirt road...wow!..........extreme bus riding!!!!
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