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Careless Intention

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Careless Intention

Postby Buckwheat » Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:43 pm

Intention is the driving force in kamma. The Buddha is very clear that unintentional actions do not create kamma (bugs on windshield is the classic example). That seems fine to me, except it seems carelessness is a form of intent. So, how does one draw the line between unintended actions and careless actions?
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Re: Careless Intention

Postby santa100 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:09 pm

Maybe that monk's brethren were paying a kammic debt caused by their own carelessness on the poor monk in some previous lives. Only the Buddha'd know... :smile:

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Re: Careless Intention

Postby Cittasanto » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:42 pm

it seams to me that a careless action is done by not thinking through properly, or actually knowing better but still doing it regardless because it worked before or is good enough when it could be easily done better.


He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Careless Intention

Postby Ben » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:51 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
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Re: Careless Intention

Postby chownah » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:20 am

Seems the next step is to find the Pali for "careless" and then to dissect it into oblivion.
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Re: Careless Intention

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Sotthī hontu nirantaraṃ - May you forever be well.

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Re: Careless Intention

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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

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Re: Careless Intention

Postby Cittasanto » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:15 am



He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.


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