Monsoon wrote:That's what I thought.
My main concern was whether it should or shouldn't happen, i.e.that I was doing something wrong or encouraging an incorrect practice that might be detrimental later.
Whimsy I can live with!
lobster wrote:Yep that is what it be - ephemeral whimsies
Perhaps I should also mention that as a long term taijiquan practitioner I am fairly comfortable with energy work, and I also indulge in a practice called zhang zhuang (standing like a tree) using 'Sung' breathing in which the breath is centred on the dan tian area and all the joints and non-postural muscles are allowed to relax into their natural positions. This is the breathing I utilise when I sit and meditate.
Anyway, I find all the buddhist practices to be interesting, but I am put off by any that smack of overt institutionalism such as is displayed by (for instance) the Catholic church. Ritual is fine as long as there is no overtone of clerical control.
If you don't understand the rituals, nor their purpose, you don't have any real way to draw a conclusion like this.
Monsoon wrote:Fair points. As far as Zhan Zhuang is concerned I don't find I get any bleed over into my sitting meditation - with respect to excitability that is. I simply use the methodology to induce a relaxed body.If you don't understand the rituals, nor their purpose, you don't have any real way to draw a conclusion like this.
Yeah, nah, it's not that I don't understand the rituals... I utilise quite a few already... it's hard to explain. As an example (perhaps a poor one): When a man/woman prays to God, this a personal action between that person and God, and it brooks no outside interference in my opinion. When a priest says "I'm sorry, you cannot pray to God without my authority", that's the kind of clerical control that I find off-putting, as well as artificial.
Maybe I will have a change of perspective in time. Who can say?
EDIT: just to reiterate, there is no sangha where I live that attracts me. There is a Tibetan one, and there is a branch of the Diamond Sangha (Robert Aitken Roshi, founder), but neither of these are really what I am looking for, although I may be tempted to at least visit the second.
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