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contraception is unethical

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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contraception is unethical

Postby befriend » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:35 pm

as i slowly find more and more happiness in renunciation and loosely following the 8 precepts, i am beginning to think contraception may be unwholsome. as i think sex for recreation is as buddha said a low act performed by common people. didnt he say that. modern medicine views sex as being healthy, and a great release of stress. this is because no one practices voluntary celibacy in our society. the health benefits of voluntary celibacy are vast. your intelligence your well being your energy, your health. yogis for thousands of years have thought celibacy to be a main staple of there spiritual and physical well being. so ive also noticed the less i look at girls cleavage or whatever the less lust arises. where does lust come from? focusing on beauty. ive stopped looking at womens bodies even when i watch tv i look away, its like i stopped feuling the fire. so i come back to my initial point. why do you think there are so many STD's? is this not the universe telling us something about recreational sex? wouldnt the world be a better place, if we all had sex only for procreation. this would stop aids pretty much. i dont know its incredibly good karma to refrain from sexual activity, the same cant be said for having sex. thoughts? metta, befriend.
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Re: contraception is unethical

Postby Ben » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:46 pm

I think you've put the cart before the horse.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: contraception is unethical

Postby befriend » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:53 pm

whats that mean?
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Re: contraception is unethical

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Re: contraception is unethical

Postby Ben » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:34 pm

While you might be celibate (and I applaud your efforts), you will find very few who will be interested in adopting that lifestyle. That is just the reality of the world we live in.

So, in the absence of celibacy and contraception you will have greater disease transmission and more unwanted pregnancies. And we can see what some of these societies look like that have a similar position towards your own regarding sex and contraception. Sub-saharan african, central and south american countries that are dominated by staunch catholicism.

Contraceptive use in these societies is a practical measure to combat poverty, HIV and other life threatening sexually transmitted diseases.

What is unethical is a policy of birth control via absention (it doesn't work) and deny the use of contraceptives.

Celibacy is an ideal and while its required for ordained sangha, it wasn't a requirement for lay followers except for short periods.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: contraception is unethical

Postby befriend » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:50 pm

yeah this is kind of a dumb topic my fault. we can close this off unless somone has something they really want to say.
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Re: contraception is unethical

Postby Fede » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:52 pm

"Samsara: The human condition's heartbreaking inability to sustain contentment." Elizabeth Gilbert, 'Eat, Pray, Love'.

Simplify: 17 into 1 WILL go: Mindfulness!

Quieta movere magna merces videbatur. (Sallust, c.86-c.35 BC)
Translation: Just to stir things up seemed a good reward in itself. ;)

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