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The US of A owns you.

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Re: The US of A owns you.

Postby kirk5a » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:16 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: The US of A owns you.

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Re: The US of A owns you.

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:36 pm

As if this were anything new. Did none of you grow up during the Hoover years? Illegal detainment was de rigure for those days, and if you want a real horror show, look up the CIA program MKULTRA. Not to mention the forced syphilis experiments performed on African Americans during the first half of the 20th century, America's (unnecessary) Leper colony, the secret injection of radioactive isotopes into American citizens in Oak Ridge during the post-WWII era to track the long term effects, infecting children with anthrax to track 'vectors.' Many others, but I don't want to ruin my mood. Not a science fiction tale, unfortunately, but true government-sanctioned black spots in this country's espionage history. The Current Gov is just standing on the shoulders of midgets.

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Will he veto SOPA? Somehow I doubt that...

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Re: The US of A owns you.

Postby fragrant herbs » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:44 pm

The stipulation is this: Not without a trial. Still, I am alarmed. Such as, will this someday apply to protestors? Where will it stop?

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Postby chownah » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:58 pm

fragrant herbs,
There are no trials....there is not even any statement of just what someone might have done...they can just nab anyone they label as a "SUSPECTED terrorist" (just suspected of it) and jail them....they can nab anyone in the entire world and jail them anywhere in the world they want to move them to and keep them there for any length of time at all!!!!

Here's a link to an article from Yahoo News that talks about this act (It is called NDAA) and a bunch of other stuff....the part about the NDAA is about in the middle of the article.

http://news.yahoo.com/why-2012-starting ... 04578.html
Why 2012 is starting to look like 1984
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Postby fragrant herbs » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:02 pm

On TV last night they read a section, but it was only for Americans, that said that they have to give them a trial. I see a potential for a lot of abuse. Thanks for the article.

“I want to clarify that my administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a nation. My administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.” --obama

But this law is not right. All people, no matter what their citizenship have a right to trial.

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Re: The US of A owns you.

Postby kirk5a » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:32 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Postby BubbaBuddhist » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:36 pm

The Suspension Clause already allowed it during times of' 'national emergency,' which is anything from weather conditions (as seen with TS Katrina) to vague national security threats, to disorganized protesters as in the Occupy Movement, to disgruntled Girl Scouts refusing to sell cookies outside of Wal-Mart anymore. This bill just buttressed it.
Redundancy.

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Re: The US of A owns you.

Postby ancientbuddhism » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:04 pm

This may help sift fact from rumor:







[*DISCLOSURE: Marty Lederman worked at the Department of Justice when some of the briefs discussed herein were filed, and Steve Vladeck represented amici in some of the cases discussed. The views expressed herein, however, are only their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of their former employer and clients.]
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Re: The US of A owns you.

Postby manas » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:09 pm

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: The US of A owns you.

Postby ancientbuddhism » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:24 pm

I say, beware of all enterprises that require new clothes, and not rather a new wearer of clothes.” – Henry David Thoreau, Walden, 1854

Secure your own mask before assisting others. – NORTHWEST AIRLINES (Pre-Flight Instruction)



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