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Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Son of Buddha » Wed May 15, 2013 8:41 pm

Sutra:
http://huntingtonarchive.osu.edu/resour ... ha.doc.pdf
(Translated by William H. Grosnick)

This is a short and little known about sutra I thought everyone would enjoy reading.
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Will » Wed May 15, 2013 10:18 pm

If this Scribd link works, here is Zimmerman's version, with color art:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/117656284/The-Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra

Or maybe this will work-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8v8w0g0trlwc16q/Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra%20-%20Zimmerman.pdf
One should refrain from biased judgments and doubting in fathoming the Buddha and the Dharma of the Buddhas. Even though a dharma may be extremely difficult to believe, one should nonetheless maintain faith in it. Nagarjuna
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Son of Buddha » Thu May 16, 2013 1:32 am

Will wrote:If this Scribd link works, here is Zimmerman's version, with color art:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/117656284/The-Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra

Or maybe this will work-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8v8w0g0trlwc16q/Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra%20-%20Zimmerman.pdf


one of the links didn't work and the other one didn't have the full sutra it only showed 3 pages.

do you know of any commentaries by monks on this sutra???
if anyone does please post them.

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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Will » Thu May 16, 2013 1:37 am

Son of Buddha wrote:
Will wrote:If this Scribd link works, here is Zimmerman's version, with color art:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/117656284/The-Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra

Or maybe this will work-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8v8w0g0trlwc16q/Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra%20-%20Zimmerman.pdf


one of the links didn't work and the other one didn't have the full sutra it only showed 3 pages.

do you know of any commentaries by monks on this sutra???
if anyone does please post them.

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Assuming you tried the dropbox one - did you cut & paste the entire URL?

No, I do not know of a commentary on that sutra -- check that -- the Uttaratantra is considered by some as a commentary on that very sutra.
One should refrain from biased judgments and doubting in fathoming the Buddha and the Dharma of the Buddhas. Even though a dharma may be extremely difficult to believe, one should nonetheless maintain faith in it. Nagarjuna
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby cdpatton » Thu May 16, 2013 5:27 am

Son of Buddha wrote:
Will wrote:If this Scribd link works, here is Zimmerman's version, with color art:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/117656284/The-Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra

Or maybe this will work-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8v8w0g0trlwc16q/Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra%20-%20Zimmerman.pdf


one of the links didn't work and the other one didn't have the full sutra it only showed 3 pages.

do you know of any commentaries by monks on this sutra???
if anyone does please post them.

Peace and Love


While it is not a direct commentary on the Sutra itself, there is a treatise on Buddha nature translated by Paramartha. Sallie King wrote a good study of it in her book _Buddha Nature_.

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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Son of Buddha » Sat May 18, 2013 8:31 pm

Will wrote:
Son of Buddha wrote:
Will wrote:If this Scribd link works, here is Zimmerman's version, with color art:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/117656284/The-Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra

Or maybe this will work-

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8v8w0g0trlwc16q/Tathāgatagarbha-Sūtra%20-%20Zimmerman.pdf


one of the links didn't work and the other one didn't have the full sutra it only showed 3 pages.

do you know of any commentaries by monks on this sutra???
if anyone does please post them.

Peace and Love


Assuming you tried the dropbox one - did you cut & paste the entire URL?

No, I do not know of a commentary on that sutra -- check that -- the Uttaratantra is considered by some as a commentary on that very sutra.



hahahah no I didn't copy and paste the entire link I only clinked on the link opps....
yea ill look into the Uttaratantra (is it a tantra or a commentary?)
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Son of Buddha » Sat May 18, 2013 8:44 pm

cdpatton wrote:
While it is not a direct commentary on the Sutra itself, there is a treatise on Buddha nature translated by Paramartha. Sallie King wrote a good study of it in her book _Buddha Nature_.

Charlie.


is Sallie Kings book a commentary of a commentary? or is it a direct translation of one of the Buddhists teachers commentaries?

Susan K. Hookham also wrote a good study of Tathagatagarbha in her book (The Buddha Within) you might like it.
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Will » Sat May 18, 2013 10:59 pm

Son of Buddha wrote:
cdpatton wrote:
While it is not a direct commentary on the Sutra itself, there is a treatise on Buddha nature translated by Paramartha. Sallie King wrote a good study of it in her book _Buddha Nature_.

Charlie.


is Sallie Kings book a commentary of a commentary? or is it a direct translation of one of the Buddhists teachers commentaries?

Susan K. Hookham also wrote a good study of Tathagatagarbha in her book (The Buddha Within) you might like it.
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Bodhisattva Vasubandhu wrote the Buddha Nature Treatise. If I recall King did not translate every single verse, but her study of it is good.

The Uttaratantra is not a tantra, but a profound commentary on the Three Jewels and the buddha nature.
One should refrain from biased judgments and doubting in fathoming the Buddha and the Dharma of the Buddhas. Even though a dharma may be extremely difficult to believe, one should nonetheless maintain faith in it. Nagarjuna
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby cdpatton » Sun May 19, 2013 12:44 am

Son of Buddha wrote:
cdpatton wrote:
While it is not a direct commentary on the Sutra itself, there is a treatise on Buddha nature translated by Paramartha. Sallie King wrote a good study of it in her book _Buddha Nature_.

Charlie.


is Sallie Kings book a commentary of a commentary? or is it a direct translation of one of the Buddhists teachers commentaries?

Susan K. Hookham also wrote a good study of Tathagatagarbha in her book (The Buddha Within) you might like it.
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King's book seems like an expanded dissertation or something similar. She translates passages from the Chinese, but not the entire text. It's interest to me was that the Treatise presents the Buddha-nature theory as something that is not contradictory to the orthodox Buddhist positions of selflessness, emptiness, etc. It's a text that I think is not very well known.
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Rakshasa » Sun May 19, 2013 6:58 pm

I read the whole Tathagathagarbha sutra as linked in OP. But sorry I did not understand it. The only thing I read was about the benefits of reciting Tathagathagarbha sutra. But where is the Sutra?

Do I need to work on my morals?
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Re: Tathagatagarbha Sutra

Postby Son of Buddha » Wed May 22, 2013 12:26 am

Rakshasa wrote:I read the whole Tathagathagarbha sutra as linked in OP. But sorry I did not understand it. The only thing I read was about the benefits of reciting Tathagathagarbha sutra. But where is the Sutra?

Do I need to work on my morals?


The sutra explains what the Tathagatagarbha(Buddha nature) is.
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