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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 11:39 am 
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Does anyone have any experience with the Diamond Way Buddhist Center? I want to learn Tibetan Buddhist meditation and they are the only lineage of Tibetan Buddhist in my area that I can physically go to for teachings. I want to follow in the Bon lineage of Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche and know the lineage of the Diamond Way's not Bon. Will I get the proper teachings for meditation from the Diamond Way?

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:05 pm 
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The ass you sit on is the one you bring with you and the one that leaves.

I have a Diamond Way group near me. Never been but sitting is taught very well at every centre, Buddhist cult, Micky Mouse Sangha and genuine center I have been to. They will do you fine.

I wish you every success :twothumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:47 pm 
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Thank you kindly. I'm new and not taught in the Asian ways yet and I'm very new to Buddhism; I do want to start off on the right foot and I'm very thankful for this form and the people here, I'm learning. I'm reading many books and doing lots of research but nothing can compair to those actually following Buddha already. So please forgive me if I offend anyone.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:51 pm 
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So please forgive me if I offend anyone.


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Everything is fine. Learn to sit where you can. Observe, study. Sit. Practice. You will be as offensive/patronising as me in no time . . . :woohoo:

Never be offended. Everybody means well :)

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:55 pm 
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Mikeliegler wrote:
Will I get the proper teachings for meditation from the Diamond Way?


Hi Mike,

Here's a long and elaborate thread on Diamond Way and Nydahl.

http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4190

You'll get very different answers to your question depending on who you ask.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 5:30 pm 
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Topic split:

please continue discussion on the merits or demerits of practicing Buddhism & Bon simultaneously here:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12790

this is a thread about Diamond Way centers. thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:48 am 
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I'm bumping this old thread because I have a particular question about Diamond Way. How is the organization organized these days? That is, how is it structured generally speaking in terms of administration and, for lack of a better word, business practices? Particularly with regard to its North American practice groups relative to the global organization... are there people besides Mr Nydahl in positions of responsibility?

thank you for any information you can offer. PMs are welcome on this.

n.b.: I don't mean to pry and I'm not trying to judge anyone, I'm simply in need of information.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:42 am 
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I knew someone who did go to a Diamond Way centre in Texas years ago. I'm not sure how it's structured, but I would be surprised if the founder managed everything, as they have dozens of centres. She said she didn't quite like the atmosphere there, and discontinued going.

As for my own experiences, about six years ago I actually didn't know about the Karmapa controversy at the time, and I joined a Facebook group about Vajrayana Buddhism which I eventually found out was Diamond Way. It seemed fine, until I eventually found out about the Karmapa controversy and asked about it publicly in one of their forums, and without notice I was booted from the group. I asked why and the manager of the group said I mentioned the name of the "other" Karmapa, whereas they were followers of Lama Ole and his Karmapa. I looked up the issue and found Lama Ole's comment on the controversy was that every teacher should be judged by the merit of their own teachings, and it wouldn't matter if there were two Karmapas (as a matter of fact, I found some of his lectures to be quite useful). So I quoted Lama Ole's comment to her and asked her if she agreed, she said that I was being extremely rude and blocked me (I really don't think I was being rude, I was just trying to reconcile). So, if you do go to a centre, it might be pretty good, but just be careful what you say because they may be a bit touchy about some things (though I may be being rude in suggesting that).

As for the make up of the centres, as far as I know they're pretty much all westerners, but they'll have some Tibetan lamas come from time to time to give lectures. At the Thrangu Centre I occasionally attend (which is said to be pretty conservative), it's kind of the opposite to Diamond Way (which is really like a westernised Buddhism), since it's probably 80% Chinese and Tibetans, and 20% westerners -- the catch is that the westerners all wear Tibetan clothing too! :applause:

But as far as the individual centres go, I'd evaluate each for it's own merits. There's great gems everywhere, and Lama Ole is pretty much right in saying that teachers need to each be evaluated for their own merits, not brushed aside or generalised as good or bad. So, might as well go for it - if there were one near me I might even go to have a look too.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:36 pm 
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Zhen Li wrote:
But as far as the individual centres go, I'd evaluate each for it's own merits. There's great gems everywhere, and Lama Ole is pretty much right in saying that teachers need to each be evaluated for their own merits, not brushed aside or generalised as good or bad. So, might as well go for it - if there were one near me I might even go to have a look too.
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I'm bumping this old thread again to follow up on a conversation I was having offline. Question: Has Nydahl trained any leaders or teachers to run his many dozens of centers worldwide? Or is he the only recognized teacher in his whole org?

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Jikan wrote:
Zhen Li wrote:
But as far as the individual centres go, I'd evaluate each for it's own merits. There's great gems everywhere, and Lama Ole is pretty much right in saying that teachers need to each be evaluated for their own merits, not brushed aside or generalised as good or bad. So, might as well go for it - if there were one near me I might even go to have a look too.
:anjali:


I'm bumping this old thread again to follow up on a conversation I was having offline. Question: Has Nydahl trained any leaders or teachers to run his many dozens of centers worldwide? Or is he the only recognized teacher in his whole org?

If you mean something like a Vipassana type setting, where they watch the Guru's lectures on video, it's possible, but I know that the members at least manage things like question and answer sessions, meditation instructions, etc. To what extent Lama Ole had a role in training them, I don't know.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:42 am 
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There are many traveling teachers, but Lama Ole doesn't give them fancy titles like Shambhala does. Tibetan teachers also teach at the bigger centers. :namaste:


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