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contemplans
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Social Action

Postby contemplans » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:07 pm

Are there any well known cases of an arahant, or person people think are an arahant, who dedicated themselves to social action after their enlightenment? For instance, feeding the poor, establish a hospital, or other services to the needy?

Also is there any presence in the Buddhist community in the pro-life movement? Are there any Buddhist silent meditation sit-in "protests" of the killing, or something like that?

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Re: Social Action

Postby DarwidHalim » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:54 am

There is a documentary movie about a monk living in the northern Thailand and dedicating his life for the children in the golden triangle area.

You can find it in YouTube with English subtitle - Buddha's Lost Children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SddTz1roO_o

I have no idea whether he is an Arahant or not. I think only he himself can know it.
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Re: Social Action

Postby reflection » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:12 am

Many Arahants are known to teach the dhamma after their enlightenment, I think that also counts as a social action. Service to the needy. ;)

I don't know of any Buddhist pro-life activists, this is mainly a Christian thing. In Buddhism there is no clear for or against with respect to abortion; to my knowledge it's mostly seen as a situation dependent decision.

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Re: Social Action

Postby Modus.Ponens » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:09 am

Abortion has an "official" position by the Theravada which comes from the vinaya. Because a monk who helps in an abortion is comiting an offense of expulsion, the Theravada is against abortion. It could be easily argued to be a breach of the 1st precept.
He turns his mind away from those phenomena, and having done so, inclines his mind to the property of deathlessness: 'This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications; the relinquishment of all acquisitions; the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding.'
(Jhana Sutta - Thanissaro Bhikkhu translation)

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Re: Social Action

Postby cooran » Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:13 am

---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---

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Re: Social Action

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Re: Social Action

Postby reflection » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:55 am

Thank you guys for the information on abortion. :thumbsup:

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Re: Social Action

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Re: Social Action

Postby Ben » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:43 pm

The problem in answering your question, contemplans, is that arahants do not go around announcing themselves as such.

Claiming a supramundane state, for a bhikkhu, to lay people is forbidden under the VInaya. Claiming a supramundane state, for a bhikkhu who has not attained to those states, precipitates the penalty of parajika (expulsion from the order).
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Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Re: Social Action

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Re: Social Action

Postby Ben » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:42 pm

I think a much more relevant question is "are adherents of Buddhism are involved in social action/material support for those in need?"
And the answer to that is yes. You will find two very worthwhile Buddhist charities by following the links in my signature.
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“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Social Action

Postby contemplans » Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:23 pm

It would be relevant in a sense, but that answer is pretty easy. I am more interested in someone who is free from clinging in a teaching which ultimately has no regard for the body, tending to the bodily needs of others in some way. This includes the fact that this person would not longer need to do it for any spiritual reward. Someone who has attained the Nibbana-element with residue left feels pleasure and pain, but I wonder what would propel him in his will to act if he wasn't "touched" by the sufferings of others in sympathy and/or empathy.

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Re: Social Action

Postby bodom » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:37 pm

To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
http://www.ajahnchah.org/

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Re: Social Action

Postby Ben » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:04 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

(Buddhist aid in Myanmar) • •

e: [email protected]..


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